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RSSinMS [Avatar]
Newbie Joined: Oct 11, 2010 12:44 Messages: 25 Offline
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I use a Panasonic HDC-TM700 camera and I've been unable to get anyone at Panasonic to answer what I think should be a rather basic question. Here's that question (plus a little tie-in to PD10):

The camera gives the option of recording at HA1920, HG1920, HX1920 or HE1920. What does this mean? Or, more specifically, what impact does the mode of recording have on my final PD10 rendered videos, if I create standard definition DVDs with my footage?

Finally, is there any need to create a custom profile for my TM700 in PD10 if I'm using this footage to create standard definition DVDs?

Thanks in advance for any assistance. Reggie
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Senior Contributor Location: Canada Joined: Aug 21, 2009 11:24 Messages: 1431 Offline
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As per Panasonic's web pages :

1080 / 60p (28Mbps / VBR), (1920 x 1080)
HA (17 Mbps / VBR) [1920 x 1080]
HG (13 Mbps / VBR) [1920 x 1080]
HX (9 Mbps / VBR) [1920 x 1080]
HE (5 Mbps / VBR) [1920 x 1080]

The first mode is the highest quality = largest size.

PD10 cam handle all of them. Win 10, i7
Robert2 S
Senior Contributor Location: Australia Joined: Apr 22, 2009 05:57 Messages: 1461 Offline
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Just one thing if you are using High definition video to create a standard definition DVD I would advise you to make a small test DVD first. Standard definition DVD footage is no where near the quality of full HD footage. You may be satisfied with it but best to test before you spend hours and hours editing.

On the other hand if you burn an AVCHD DVD you will be able to use the full HD footage but your playback will be restricted to some Blu-ray players or a computer. My youtube channel====> http://www.youtube.com/user/relate2?feature=mhsn
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Member Location: Kentucky USA Joined: Oct 27, 2010 09:39 Messages: 81 Offline
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Record in the HA setting, but follow test suggestions above. Try producing both a short SD-DVD and a AVCHD DVD. The avchd is HD and will only play on a bluray player. Most people at least know someone with a bluray player, so you can see the quality difference. If not, try it in a store. Self Built PC - W7 Pro 64 bit w/ SP1
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I understand the concept of the camera having increasing levels of quality that subsequently produce larger file sizes. What I don't understand is how these quality differences effect the final output if that output is to be standard def DVDs.

I must produce standard def DVDs because my projects are distributed to several individuals and I'm trying to be compatible for everyone in the group. Otherwise, I'd use the high def options available.

I guess my question is...how does the high def footage get "downgraded" to standard def for a DVD? Is the process analogous to taking an image with a 15-megapixel camera and then printing that image on a 300 dpi printer?

And, for the quality reduction that must occur, does PD10 need any special instructions that would improve the quality that I get in my final product, considering that I'm using the TM700?

Thanks again, guys, for all of your suggestions. Reggie
pjc3
Senior Member Location: Australia Joined: May 29, 2010 19:33 Messages: 247 Offline
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Hi Reggie,

I do what you do and distribute as DVD.

I recommend you shoot all footage as 1080p50/60. PD has a long history of stuffing up field order with interlaced material and so if you stick with progressive, you may well get better results. Also I suggest you produce a 1080p50/60 file of your finished project as a backup. It won't be long before every flat screen TV will happily play these back from USB and it is soooooo much better than DVD. Panasonic SD9, Panasonic TM700, Panasonic SD600, GoPro HD Hero.
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Newbie Joined: Oct 11, 2010 12:44 Messages: 25 Offline
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Thanks, pjc3. Glad to find someone else with a TM700. Now I'm about to REALLY show my ignorance...

Based on your answer, I'm assuming that the HA/HG/HX/HE modes are interlaced? And the 1080p is progressive?

Finally, does the 1080p footage require significantly more computing power? I'm OK rendering the footage that I use now (HG1920), but I don't want to push my luck too far...I still crash fairly frequently.

Thanks again everyone for your help... Reggie
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Senior Contributor Location: Canada Joined: Aug 21, 2009 11:24 Messages: 1431 Offline
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i and p video modes have little to do with PC number crunching. The HG mode is interlaced at only 13 Mbps, which is not an issue for any PC with 3 cores or more. Win 10, i7
pjc3
Senior Member Location: Australia Joined: May 29, 2010 19:33 Messages: 247 Offline
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Quote: I'm assuming that the HA/HG/HX/HE modes are interlaced? And the 1080p is progressive?

Correct. Interlaced format is a hangover from CRT technology and analogue transmission. Done well it is quite efficient and gives great results but it is diffucult to work with in many situations. The sooner we get rid of it the better for consumer products.

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Finally, does the 1080p footage require significantly more computing power? I'm OK rendering the footage that I use now (HG1920), but I don't want to push my luck too far...I still crash fairly frequently.


Try it. It may well slow down your navigation around the timeline. As far as rendering it will take longer but smart SVRT does apparently work for TM700.

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RSSinMS [Avatar]
Newbie Joined: Oct 11, 2010 12:44 Messages: 25 Offline
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Thanks, HDedit & pjc3! I'm planning to try some 1080p. I'll let you guys know it pans out. Reggie
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