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FADE transition - the big problem
Grzegorz2 [Avatar]
Newbie Location: Warsaw, POLAND Joined: Apr 03, 2009 11:38 Messages: 13 Offline
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Please, somebody help me
I spend a lot of time to make (as a "handmade") my preferred transition (fade) among my clips.
I wrote about my problem a couple of weeks ago, because of no answer I gave up and make it by "keyframe" option changing opacity of my joined clips.
It take a lot of time Fade transition included in PD9 has a big fault, even on my TV (somebody told here that this problem appears ONLY on PC) I can see "that last frames om my joined clips are frozen !!!!
It looks very, very bad.
What should I do to save my time

Nobody has the same problem ?
Please, help me
"My job makes my life possible but my job is not my life"
ynotfish
Senior Contributor Location: N.S.W. Australia Joined: May 08, 2009 02:06 Messages: 9977 Offline
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Hi Grzegorz2 -

I couldn't find your previous post easily, but I did find http://forum.cyberlink.com/forum/posts/list/15616.page

Maybe you didn't get "an answer" because the behaviour you're seeing (frozen frame in fade transition) might have a number of causes.

Are you using CROSS or OVERLAP transitions? What GPU are you using? Is your driver up-to-date? I use a NVIDIA GTX 260 with the latest driver & have had no problem with frozen frames in transitions.

Cheers - Tony

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Grzegorz2 [Avatar]
Newbie Location: Warsaw, POLAND Joined: Apr 03, 2009 11:38 Messages: 13 Offline
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Hi Tony,

First af all I am very happy that you have sent very quick answer.
Because I am going to sleep (there is a night in Poland now ), I'll do another trials tomorrow morning (after careful reading of thread what you pointed out).
Results I'll present as soon as possible

cheers

Grzegorz

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Grzegorz2 [Avatar]
Newbie Location: Warsaw, POLAND Joined: Apr 03, 2009 11:38 Messages: 13 Offline
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OK, I sacrified my lazy time to deeper research of my problem.
So, if I use CROSS option I can manage proper fading effect between two clips (the same result if I would use keyframe option with 0 opacity parameter on both edges followed clips).
Problem appears, when I would like to have an effect like in keyframe option with let say 20 value parameter on both edges (it is OVERLAP option).
When I move forward my movie frame by frame I can see that many frames after my first clip is ended, I STILL HAVE "frozen" picture (last frame from the first clip) in the "background" of my second clip (with less opacity than 100 of course).
In my opinion this is not a normal situation, am I right ?

My processor is Core2Duo 3 GHz, and video card is NVidia 9600GT with the newest drivers (upgraded an hour ago)

cheers

Grzegorz "My job makes my life possible but my job is not my life"
Grzegorz2 [Avatar]
Newbie Location: Warsaw, POLAND Joined: Apr 03, 2009 11:38 Messages: 13 Offline
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I cancelled my message. Sorry.

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Rocket-Scientist
Senior Member Location: HUNTSVILLE, ALABAMA Joined: Apr 23, 2010 10:14 Messages: 288 Offline
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could you give a little more info on what kind of video you are editing.

Your video card has only 64 Cuda cores and 512 MB memory, that is a little light for HD processing.

do you have hardware acceleration and/or encode/decode set on or off? Try turning all acceleration off and see if that is the problem. RTX 2060 SUPER 8GB GDDR6
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Grzegorz2 [Avatar]
Newbie Location: Warsaw, POLAND Joined: Apr 03, 2009 11:38 Messages: 13 Offline
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I edit AVCHD clips from my Canon HF100 camcorder (1920x1080i 17 Mbps).
Sorry, but I am not going to change my video card for ONLY to have proper fade transition effect.
In my opinion this "feature" is not GPU intensive (as for card memory or GPU), of course I may be wrong.
I switched off in EDIT->PREFERENCES->HARDWARE ACCELERATION - no change.
It seems, that I have to live with it .... "My job makes my life possible but my job is not my life"
Rocket-Scientist
Senior Member Location: HUNTSVILLE, ALABAMA Joined: Apr 23, 2010 10:14 Messages: 288 Offline
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HD transitions are VERY computationally intense, it takes a lot of memory to hold multiple frames in store and to calculate the color intensity etc of each pixel.

Each frame has to be expanded to full 1960x1080 size (unpacked from the H.264 compression, merged with multiple frames, then reincoded back to h.264.

With 32 bit machine, that alone will tax your system. You CPU is also on the light side for HD, should be fine for SD. RTX 2060 SUPER 8GB GDDR6
(2 NVME 2TB, 1 SSD 2TB, 3SATA 18TB )
PD18 ULTIMATE 64bit
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Grzegorz2 [Avatar]
Newbie Location: Warsaw, POLAND Joined: Apr 03, 2009 11:38 Messages: 13 Offline
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Thank you for an answer. Probably you are more experienced user in NLE's than I am, but let me still have a doubts.

Tell me, why I have not this type of problem, when I use Keyframe button and changing opacity between two clips
As I understand, my GPU and memory and CPU do the same work unimportant, what sort of transition (I mean keyframe or added to PD) I have chosen, am I right ?

CPU and GPU power have influence on rendering time not quality or faults, am I right ?

please, explain my doubts

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Contributor Location: California, USA Joined: Aug 09, 2009 01:36 Messages: 446 Offline
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You must use the Overlap transition if you don't want those still frames.

Why don't you want to use the Overlap transition? If you don't use it, then you must do it yourself by using two tracks and keyframming the opacity.

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Grzegorz2 [Avatar]
Newbie Location: Warsaw, POLAND Joined: Apr 03, 2009 11:38 Messages: 13 Offline
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I am sorry Xerox, but seems to me that you did not properly understand my problem.
My problem is just OVERLAP mode transition, I wrote about it in my third message.
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