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1080p 3D BluRay with ATi HD3D HDMI 1.4
M Kelbie [Avatar]
Newbie Joined: May 17, 2011 18:56 Messages: 7 Offline
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Can anyone help me? I've been trying for the past few days to enable 3D playback on my HTPC.
After reading posts I updated my 4xxx series card to a HD6450 with HDMI 1.4 but I'm still having problems.

If I select auto settings in the 3D options it defaults my tv as a hdmi 1.4 1080p but when I attempt to play a 3D movie it throws an error at me saying can not enable 3D playback. I have played about with the settings and discovered if i set my tv as 120hz LCD when I play a 3D film my tv detects it; switches to 3D mode but for some strange reason it changes from 1080p to 720p (1280x720@60hz).

Does anyone have any idea why this happens? Would appreciate any help as I've been trying for days now

Tv - Samauns LE46C750
Gfx - Saphire Hd6450
Powerdvd 11 (latest build, no updates available when I try)
Highspees hdmi 1.4 Ethernet cables going directly to tv
Windows 7 x64 (dualcore 2.8 & 4gb ram)

I believe to my knowledge I have hardware capable of playing 3D bluray @1080p and hopefully it's just a driver/setting issue?


Thanks for any help..
M Kelbie [Avatar]
Newbie Joined: May 17, 2011 18:56 Messages: 7 Offline
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Please someone help, is there a setting or something im missing.

720p works fine but it just doesn't like 1080p or the fact my setup is all hdmi 1.4
M Kelbie [Avatar]
Newbie Joined: May 17, 2011 18:56 Messages: 7 Offline
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Can no one offer any help for me here? I have researched so much into this and really do need help. I am beginning to think that buying a HD6450 was the wrong decision cause despite it's hdmi 1.4 slot on AMD's HD3D requirements it doesn't list my card even though on the packaging it says amd hd3d ready and designed for 3D.

Any help suggestions or ideas is greatly appreciated or even if people could provide evidence of working 3D blurays on ATI setups.


Thanks

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Hi

PowerDVD 11 should work with HDMI1.4 1080p 3D TV sets.

Could you contact AMD to make sure the compatibility first? Not only your card is not listed, I can't find your Samauns LE46C750 either.

http://www.amd.com/us/products/technologies/amd-hd3d/pages/supported-hardware.aspx
M Kelbie [Avatar]
Newbie Joined: May 17, 2011 18:56 Messages: 7 Offline
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LN46C750 is listed though and I believe that is the same TV.

I have contacted AMD but havnt received a reply yet so will just have to wait for their feedback.

Thanks
M Kelbie [Avatar]
Newbie Joined: May 17, 2011 18:56 Messages: 7 Offline
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AMD have said generally we recommend a 68/69 series card for 3D content but that was reference to gaming as well so just for movie playback my card is capable. Do you have any idea what else it could be if my gfx card, tv & glasses all support 1080p 3D?

Thanks
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Hi M Kelbie

Can you contact our Technical support and ask them to report your issue to our R&D team?

http://www.cyberlink.com/prog/support/cs/product-faq-content.do?id=11434&prodId=1&prodVerId=887
Darque [Avatar]
Newbie Joined: May 25, 2011 03:33 Messages: 2 Offline
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Hi M Kelbie. Are you running your PC through an AMP (Via HDMI) before the TV? I had the same issue, upgraded my Video Card to an AMD (To support HDMI 1.4 - same issue) and I found the AMP was stripping away the 3D info. I have to run directly into the TV for the 3D to work. Sony KDL-55HX925
Sony STR-DA5400ES
david3322 [Avatar]
Newbie Joined: Jun 05, 2011 11:11 Messages: 6 Offline
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Ati 6xxx models are indeed HDMI 1.4 compilant and 3d Bluray compatible as clearly stated on Ati website.
Please look into this issues, atm is not possible for us ATI owners to playback 3d bluray content in HDMI 1.4 mode.
CyberLink-Michael [Avatar]
Senior Contributor Location: Europe Joined: Apr 18, 2007 04:05 Messages: 7418 Offline
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Hi David,

can you please post some info about your environment:

http://forum.cyberlink.com/forum/posts/list/16915.page

thanks
Michael Technical Support

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david3322 [Avatar]
Newbie Joined: Jun 05, 2011 11:11 Messages: 6 Offline
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Hello Micheal, sorry if i didn't post more details: that's because my setup is pretty similar to OP and following guys. Please take two minutes to read following i think there will be all the info you need.
i'm using a
e8400
4gb ram
a brand new HD 6450
going via hdmi to a UE55C9000SPXZT.
OS W7Ultimatex64

The error i get (is in italian so i will translate it) is roughly "unable to start 3d playback on this device, please try another one"
I get this error using Extended mode, clone mode and even using my 3D panel as only monitor!

The only way to have some kind of 3d working is setting 3d Lcd + glasses instead of hdmi 1.4, from there the resolution changes automatically to 720p (i found a workaround for that by enabling GPU scaling that will allow me to go 1080 even tho i'm not sure it's a native format rather then an upscaling and, also, when doing this i have black borders alla around the image on the tv and i'm not obv talking about normal letterbox )

Thanks for your time, i'm at disposale for every other info you might need
secret [Avatar]
Newbie Joined: Jun 05, 2011 22:16 Messages: 2 Offline
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I also got this problem with all 11.5 drivers 11.4 and older works thought.

I have set my tv to primary display and use 11.4 drivers then it will show 3d blurays in full hd 24hz (make sure you haven't set gpu scaling for your tv in ccc because then thinks go bad

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david3322 [Avatar]
Newbie Joined: Jun 05, 2011 11:11 Messages: 6 Offline
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hey secret would you mind sparing more details?
I tried a clean w7 installation using 11.4 catalyst drivers but i'm still not able to output trough hdmi 1.4
Thanks for the feedback!

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at Jun 06. 2011 07:12

david3322 [Avatar]
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bump
CyberLink-Michael [Avatar]
Senior Contributor Location: Europe Joined: Apr 18, 2007 04:05 Messages: 7418 Offline
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Please help to post the asked information
http://forum.cyberlink.com/forum/posts/list/16915.page

Br
Michael Technical Support

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david3322 [Avatar]
Newbie Joined: Jun 05, 2011 11:11 Messages: 6 Offline
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'm using a
e8400
4gb ram
a brand new HD 6450
going via hdmi to a UE55C9000SPXZT.
OS W7Ultimatex64

The error i get (is in italian so i will translate it) is roughly "unable to start 3d playback on this device, please try another one"
I get this error using Extended mode, clone mode and even using my 3D panel as only monitor!

The only way to have some kind of 3d working is setting 3d Lcd + glasses instead of hdmi 1.4, from there the resolution changes automatically to 720p (i found a workaround for that by enabling GPU scaling that will allow me to go 1080 even tho i'm not sure it's a native format rather then an upscaling and, also, when doing this i have black borders alla around the image on the tv and i'm not obv talking about normal letterbox )

Thanks for your time, i'm at disposale for every other info you might need
CyberLink-Michael [Avatar]
Senior Contributor Location: Europe Joined: Apr 18, 2007 04:05 Messages: 7418 Offline
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Sorry, but I need the DXDIAG log file to analyze the environment and to escalate the issue.

thanks and br
Michael Technical Support

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david3322 [Avatar]
Newbie Joined: Jun 05, 2011 11:11 Messages: 6 Offline
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System Information
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Time of this report: 6/14/2011, 17:39:09
Machine name: Z-PC
Operating System: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 (7601.win7sp1_rtm.101119-1850)
Language: Italian (Regional Setting: Italian)
System Manufacturer: System manufacturer
System Model: P5K
BIOS: BIOS Date: 10/14/08 13:59:09 Ver: 08.00.12
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E8400 @ 3.00GHz (2 CPUs), ~3.0GHz
Memory: 4096MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 4096MB RAM
Page File: 2387MB used, 5800MB available
Windows Dir: C:\Windows
DirectX Version: DirectX 11
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
User DPI Setting: Using System DPI
System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled
DxDiag Version: 6.01.7601.17514 32bit Unicode

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DxDiag Notes
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Display Tab 1: No problems found.
Display Tab 2: No problems found.
Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 2: No problems found.
Sound Tab 3: No problems found.
Input Tab: No problems found.

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DirectX Debug Levels
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Direct3D: 0/4 (retail)
DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (retail)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (retail)
DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow: 0/6 (retail)

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Display Devices
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Card name: AMD Radeon HD 6450
Manufacturer: ATI Technologies Inc.
Chip type: ATI display adapter (0x6779)
DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz)
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_6779&SUBSYS_03DA1043&REV_00
Display Memory: 2803 MB
Dedicated Memory: 1012 MB
Shared Memory: 1791 MB
Current Mode: 1920 x 1200 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Monitor Name: Monitor generico Plug and Play
Monitor Model: SyncMaster
Monitor Id: SAM0422
Native Mode: 1920 x 1200(p) (59.950Hz)
Output Type: DVI
Driver Name: aticfx64.dll,aticfx64.dll,aticfx64.dll,aticfx32,aticfx32,aticfx32,atiumd64.dll,atidxx64.dll,atidxx64.dll,atiumdag,atidxx32,atidxx32,atiumdva,atiumd6a.cap,atitmm64.dll
Driver File Version: 8.17.0010.1072 (English)
Driver Version: 8.841.0.0
DDI Version: 11
Driver Model: WDDM 1.1
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 4/6/2011 04:02:00, 788480 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: n/a
WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
Device Identifier: {D7B71EE2-2439-11CF-C377-D023BEC2C535}
Vendor ID: 0x1002
Device ID: 0x6779
SubSys ID: 0x03DA1043
Revision ID: 0x0000
Driver Strong Name: oem5.inf:ATI.Mfg.NTamd64.6.1:ati2mtag_NI:8.841.0.0:pci\ven_1002&dev_6779
Rank Of Driver: 00E62001
Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_A ModeMPEG2_C
Deinterlace Caps: {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
{5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY
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{5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(YV12,0x32315659) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
{5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY
{5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC1,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
{5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC2,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
{5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC3,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
{5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC4,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
{5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(S340,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
{5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(S342,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
D3D9 Overlay: Not Supported
DXVA-HD: Not Supported
DDraw Status: Enabled
D3D Status: Enabled
AGP Status: Enabled

Card name: AMD Radeon HD 6450
Manufacturer: ATI Technologies Inc.
Chip type: ATI display adapter (0x6779)
DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz)
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_6779&SUBSYS_03DA1043&REV_00
Display Memory: 2803 MB
Dedicated Memory: 1012 MB
Shared Memory: 1791 MB
Current Mode: 1920 x 1080 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Monitor Name: Monitor generico Plug and Play
Monitor Model: SAMSUNG
Monitor Id: SAM06CA
Native Mode: 1920 x 1080(p) (60.000Hz)
Output Type: HDMI
Driver Name: aticfx64.dll,aticfx64.dll,aticfx64.dll,aticfx32,aticfx32,aticfx32,atiumd64.dll,atidxx64.dll,atidxx64.dll,atiumdag,atidxx32,atidxx32,atiumdva,atiumd6a.cap,atitmm64.dll
Driver File Version: 8.17.0010.1072 (English)
Driver Version: 8.841.0.0
DDI Version: 11
Driver Model: WDDM 1.1
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 4/6/2011 04:02:00, 788480 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: n/a
WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
Device Identifier: {D7B71EE2-2439-11CF-C377-D023BEC2C535}
Vendor ID: 0x1002
Device ID: 0x6779
SubSys ID: 0x03DA1043
Revision ID: 0x0000
Driver Strong Name: oem5.inf:ATI.Mfg.NTamd64.6.1:ati2mtag_NI:8.841.0.0:pci\ven_1002&dev_6779
Rank Of Driver: 00E62001
Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_A ModeMPEG2_C
Deinterlace Caps: {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
{5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,UYVY) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
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{5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY
{5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC1,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
{5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC2,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
{5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC3,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
{5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC4,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
{5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(S340,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
{5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(S342,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
D3D9 Overlay: Not Supported
DXVA-HD: Not Supported
DDraw Status: Enabled
D3D Status: Enabled
AGP Status: Enabled

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Sound Devices
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Description: Altoparlanti (Dispositivo High Definition Audio)
Default Sound Playback: Yes
Default Voice Playback: Yes
Hardware ID: HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0883&SUBSYS_1043829F&REV_1000
Manufacturer ID: 1
Product ID: 65535
Type: WDM
Driver Name: HdAudio.sys
Driver Version: 6.01.7601.17514 (Italian)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
WHQL Logo'd: n/a
Date and Size: 11/21/2010 05:23:47, 350208 bytes
Other Files:
Driver Provider: Microsoft
HW Accel Level: Basic
Cap Flags: 0x0
Min/Max Sample Rate: 0, 0
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 0, 0
Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 0, 0
HW Memory: 0
Voice Management: No
EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No
I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No

Description: Audio digitale (S/PDIF) (Dispositivo High Definition Audio)
Default Sound Playback: No
Default Voice Playback: No
Hardware ID: HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0883&SUBSYS_1043829F&REV_1000
Manufacturer ID: 1
Product ID: 65535
Type: WDM
Driver Name: HdAudio.sys
Driver Version: 6.01.7601.17514 (Italian)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
WHQL Logo'd: n/a
Date and Size: 11/21/2010 05:23:47, 350208 bytes
Other Files:
Driver Provider: Microsoft
HW Accel Level: Basic
Cap Flags: 0x0
Min/Max Sample Rate: 0, 0
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 0, 0
Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 0, 0
HW Memory: 0
Voice Management: No
EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No
I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No

Description: AMD HDMI Output (AMD High Definition Audio Device)
Default Sound Playback: No
Default Voice Playback: No
Hardware ID: HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_1002&DEV_AA01&SUBSYS_00AA0100&REV_1002
Manufacturer ID: 1
Product ID: 100
Type: WDM
Driver Name: AtihdW76.sys
Driver Version: 7.12.0000.7700 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
WHQL Logo'd: n/a
Date and Size: 11/17/2010 14:04:32, 115216 bytes
Other Files:
Driver Provider: Advanced Micro Devices
HW Accel Level: Basic
Cap Flags: 0x0
Min/Max Sample Rate: 0, 0
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 0, 0
Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 0, 0
HW Memory: 0
Voice Management: No
EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No
I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No

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Sound Capture Devices
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Description: Microfono (USB Speakers)
Default Sound Capture: Yes
Default Voice Capture: Yes
Driver Name: USBAUDIO.sys
Driver Version: 6.01.7601.17514 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Date and Size: 11/21/2010 05:23:47, 109696 bytes
Cap Flags: 0x0
Format Flags: 0x0

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DirectInput Devices
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Device Name: Mouse
Attached: 1
Controller ID: n/a
Vendor/Product ID: n/a
FF Driver: n/a

Device Name: Tastiera
Attached: 1
Controller ID: n/a
Vendor/Product ID: n/a
FF Driver: n/a

Device Name: G9 Laser Mouse
Attached: 1
Controller ID: 0x0
Vendor/Product ID: 0x046D, 0xC048
FF Driver: n/a

Device Name: G9 Laser Mouse
Attached: 1
Controller ID: 0x0
Vendor/Product ID: 0x046D, 0xC048
FF Driver: n/a

Device Name: G9 Laser Mouse
Attached: 1
Controller ID: 0x0
Vendor/Product ID: 0x046D, 0xC048
FF Driver: n/a

Poll w/ Interrupt: No

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USB Devices
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+ Hub radice USB
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x8086, 0x2937
| Matching Device ID: usb\root_hub
| Service: usbhub

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Gameport Devices
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PS/2 Devices
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+ Tastiera HID
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x046D, 0xC048
| Matching Device ID: hid_device_system_keyboard
| Service: kbdhid
|
+ Tastiera HID
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x06F2, 0x0011
| Matching Device ID: hid_device_system_keyboard
| Service: kbdhid
|
+ Tastiera HID
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x413C, 0x2003
| Matching Device ID: hid_device_system_keyboard
| Service: kbdhid
|
+ Driver tastiera di Terminal Server
| Matching Device ID: root\rdp_kbd
| Upper Filters: kbdclass
| Service: TermDD
|
+ Mouse compatibile HID
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x046D, 0xC048
| Matching Device ID: hid_device_system_mouse
| Service: mouhid
|
+ Mouse compatibile HID
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x06F2, 0x0011
| Matching Device ID: hid_device_system_mouse
| Service: mouhid
|
+ Driver mouse di Terminal Server
| Matching Device ID: root\rdp_mou
| Upper Filters: mouclass
| Service: TermDD

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Disk & DVD/CD-ROM Drives
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Drive: C:
Free Space: 55.8 GB
Total Space: 109.6 GB
File System: NTFS
Model: OCZ-VERTEX2 ATA Device

Drive: D:
Model: ELBY CLONEDRIVE SCSI CdRom Device
Driver: c:\windows\system32\drivers\cdrom.sys, 6.01.7601.17514 (Italian), , 0 bytes

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System Devices
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Name: Controller per High Definition Audio
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_293E&SUBSYS_829F1043&REV_02\3&11583659&0&D8
Driver: n/a

Name: Controller Universal Host USB Intel(R) famiglia ICH9 - 2934
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2934&SUBSYS_82771043&REV_02\3&11583659&0&E8
Driver: n/a

Name: Controller Atheros L1 Gigabit Ethernet 10/100/1000Base-T
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1969&DEV_1048&SUBSYS_82261043&REV_B0\4&18BA0AA4&0&00E5
Driver: n/a

Name: Controller Enhanced Host USB2 Intel(R) famiglia ICH9 - 293C
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_293C&SUBSYS_82771043&REV_02\3&11583659&0&D7
Driver: n/a

Name: Intel(R) ICH9 Family SMBus Controller - 2930
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2930&SUBSYS_82771043&REV_02\3&11583659&0&FB
Driver: n/a

Name: SAA7135 TV Card
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1131&DEV_7133&SUBSYS_00001131&REV_F0\4&1542FBD&0&10F0
Driver: n/a

Name: Controller Enhanced Host USB2 Intel(R) famiglia ICH9 - 293A
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_293A&SUBSYS_82771043&REV_02\3&11583659&0&EF
Driver: n/a

Name: Intel(R) ICH9 Family 2 port Serial ATA Storage Controller 2 - 2926
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2926&SUBSYS_82771043&REV_02\3&11583659&0&FD
Driver: n/a

Name: Intel(R) G33/G31/P35/P31 Express Chipset PCI Express Root Port - 29C1
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_29C1&SUBSYS_82761043&REV_02\3&11583659&0&08
Driver: n/a

Name: Controller Universal Host USB Intel(R) famiglia ICH9 - 2939
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2939&SUBSYS_82771043&REV_02\3&11583659&0&D2
Driver: n/a

Name: Intel(R) ICH9 Family 2 port Serial ATA Storage Controller 1 - 2921
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2921&SUBSYS_82771043&REV_02\3&11583659&0&FA
Driver: n/a

Name: Controller per High Definition Audio
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_AA98&SUBSYS_AA981043&REV_00\4&21D451D8&0&0108
Driver: n/a

Name: Intel(R) G33/G31/P35/P31 Express Chipset Processor to I/O Controller - 29C0
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_29C0&SUBSYS_82761043&REV_02\3&11583659&0&00
Driver: n/a

Name: Controller Universal Host USB Intel(R) famiglia ICH9 - 2938
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2938&SUBSYS_82771043&REV_02\3&11583659&0&D1
Driver: n/a

Name: Intel(R) ICH9 LPC Interface Controller - 2918
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2918&SUBSYS_82771043&REV_02\3&11583659&0&F8
Driver: n/a

Name: Intel(R) ICH9 Family PCI Express Root Port 6 - 294A
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_294A&SUBSYS_82771043&REV_02\3&11583659&0&E5
Driver: n/a

Name: Controller Universal Host USB Intel(R) famiglia ICH9 - 2937
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2937&SUBSYS_82771043&REV_02\3&11583659&0&D0
Driver: n/a

Name: Bridge Intel(R) 82801 PCI - 244E
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_244E&SUBSYS_82771043&REV_92\3&11583659&0&F0
Driver: n/a

Name: Intel(R) ICH9 Family PCI Express Root Port 5 - 2948
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2948&SUBSYS_82771043&REV_02\3&11583659&0&E4
Driver: n/a

Name: Controller Universal Host USB Intel(R) famiglia ICH9 - 2936
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2936&SUBSYS_82771043&REV_02\3&11583659&0&EA
Driver: n/a

Name: Controller standard PCI IDE
Device ID: PCI\VEN_197B&DEV_2363&SUBSYS_824F1043&REV_03\4&1AD356C7&0&01E4
Driver: n/a

Name: AMD Radeon HD 6450
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_6779&SUBSYS_03DA1043&REV_00\4&21D451D8&0&0008
Driver: n/a

Name: Intel(R) ICH9 Family PCI Express Root Port 1 - 2940
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2940&SUBSYS_82771043&REV_02\3&11583659&0&E0
Driver: n/a

Name: Controller Universal Host USB Intel(R) famiglia ICH9 - 2935
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2935&SUBSYS_82771043&REV_02\3&11583659&0&E9
Driver: n/a

Name: JMicron JMB36X Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_197B&DEV_2363&SUBSYS_824F1043&REV_03\4&1AD356C7&0&00E4
Driver: n/a

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DirectShow Filters
------------------

DirectShow Filters:
WMAudio Decoder DMO,0x00800800,1,1,WMADMOD.DLL,6.01.7601.17514
WMAPro over S/PDIF DMO,0x00600800,1,1,WMADMOD.DLL,6.01.7601.17514
WMSpeech Decoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,WMSPDMOD.DLL,6.01.7601.17514
MP3 Decoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,mp3dmod.dll,6.01.7600.16385
Mpeg4s Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,mp4sdecd.dll,6.01.7600.16385
WMV Screen decoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,wmvsdecd.dll,6.01.7601.17514
WMVideo Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,wmvdecod.dll,6.01.7601.17514
Mpeg43 Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,mp43decd.dll,6.01.7600.16385
Mpeg4 Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,mpg4decd.dll,6.01.7600.16385
ATI Ticker,0x00200000,0,1,Ticker.ax,
DV Muxer,0x00400000,0,0,qdv.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Color Space Converter,0x00400001,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
WM ASF Reader,0x00400000,0,0,qasf.dll,12.00.7601.17514
Screen Capture filter,0x00200000,0,1,wmpsrcwp.dll,12.00.7601.17514
AVI Splitter,0x00600000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
VGA 16 Color Ditherer,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
SBE2MediaTypeProfile,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Microsoft DTV-DVD Video Decoder,0x005fffff,2,4,msmpeg2vdec.dll,6.01.7140.0000
AC3 Parser Filter,0x00600000,1,1,mpg2splt.ax,6.06.7601.17514
StreamBufferSink,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,6.06.7601.17514
MJPEG Decompressor,0x00600000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
MPEG-I Stream Splitter,0x00600000,1,2,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
SAMI (CC) Parser,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
VBI Codec,0x00600000,1,4,VBICodec.ax,6.06.7601.17514
MPEG-2 Splitter,0x005fffff,1,0,mpg2splt.ax,6.06.7601.17514
Closed Captions Analysis Filter,0x00200000,2,5,cca.dll,6.06.7601.17514
SBE2FileScan,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Microsoft MPEG-2 Video Encoder,0x00200000,1,1,msmpeg2enc.dll,6.01.7601.17514
Internal Script Command Renderer,0x00800001,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
MPEG Audio Decoder,0x03680001,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
MMACE ProcAmp,0x00200000,0,2,MMACEFilters.dll,
DV Splitter,0x00600000,1,2,qdv.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Video Mixing Renderer 9,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Haali Media Splitter,0x00800001,0,1,splitter.ax,1.11.0096.0014
Haali Media Splitter (AR),0x00400000,1,1,splitter.ax,1.11.0096.0014
Microsoft MPEG-2 Encoder,0x00200000,2,1,msmpeg2enc.dll,6.01.7601.17514
ACM Wrapper,0x00600000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
CoreAAC Audio Decoder,0x00800000,1,1,CoreAAC.ax,1.02.0000.0573
Video Renderer,0x00800001,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
MPEG-2 Video Stream Analyzer,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Line 21 Decoder,0x00600000,1,1,qdvd.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Video Port Manager,0x00600000,2,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Video Renderer,0x00400000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Haali Video Renderer,0x00200000,1,0,dxr.dll,
VPS Decoder,0x00200000,0,0,WSTPager.ax,6.06.7601.17514
WM ASF Writer,0x00400000,0,0,qasf.dll,12.00.7601.17514
VBI Surface Allocator,0x00600000,1,1,vbisurf.ax,6.01.7601.17514
MMACE SoftEmu,0x00200000,0,2,MMACEFilters.dll,
File writer,0x00200000,1,0,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514
iTV Data Sink,0x00600000,1,0,itvdata.dll,6.06.7601.17514
iTV Data Capture filter,0x00600000,1,1,itvdata.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Haali Simple Media Splitter,0x00200000,0,1,splitter.ax,1.11.0096.0014
DirectVobSub,0x00200000,2,1,vsfilter.dll,1.05.0002.3093
DirectVobSub (auto-loading version),0x00800002,2,1,vsfilter.dll,1.05.0002.3093
DVD Navigator,0x00200000,0,3,qdvd.dll,6.06.7601.17514
MMACE DeInterlace,0x00200000,0,2,MMACEFilters.dll,
Overlay Mixer2,0x00200000,1,1,qdvd.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Haali Matroska Muxer,0x00200000,1,0,splitter.ax,1.11.0096.0014
AC3Filter,0x40000000,1,1,ac3filter.ax,1.03.0001.0000
AVI Draw,0x00600064,9,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
RDP DShow Redirection Filter,0xffffffff,1,0,DShowRdpFilter.dll,
Microsoft MPEG-2 Audio Encoder,0x00200000,1,1,msmpeg2enc.dll,6.01.7601.17514
WST Pager,0x00200000,1,1,WSTPager.ax,6.06.7601.17514
MPEG-2 Demultiplexer,0x00600000,1,1,mpg2splt.ax,6.06.7601.17514
DV Video Decoder,0x00800000,1,1,qdv.dll,6.06.7601.17514
SampleGrabber,0x00200000,1,1,qedit.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Null Renderer,0x00200000,1,0,qedit.dll,6.06.7601.17514
MPEG-2 Sections and Tables,0x005fffff,1,0,Mpeg2Data.ax,6.06.7601.17514
Microsoft AC3 Encoder,0x00200000,1,1,msac3enc.dll,6.01.7601.17514
StreamBufferSource,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Smart Tee,0x00200000,1,2,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Overlay Mixer,0x00200000,0,0,qdvd.dll,6.06.7601.17514
AVI Decompressor,0x00600000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
AVI/WAV File Source,0x00400000,0,2,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Wave Parser,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
MIDI Parser,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Multi-file Parser,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
File stream renderer,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Microsoft DTV-DVD Audio Decoder,0x005fffff,1,1,msmpeg2adec.dll,6.01.7140.0000
StreamBufferSink2,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,6.06.7601.17514
AVI Mux,0x00200000,1,0,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Line 21 Decoder 2,0x00600002,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
File Source (Async.),0x00400000,0,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
File Source (URL),0x00400000,0,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Haali Video Sink,0x00200000,1,0,splitter.ax,1.11.0096.0014
Infinite Pin Tee Filter,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Enhanced Video Renderer,0x00200000,1,0,evr.dll,6.01.7601.17514
BDA MPEG2 Transport Information Filter,0x00200000,2,0,psisrndr.ax,6.06.7601.17514
MPEG Video Decoder,0x40000001,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514

WDM Streaming Tee/Splitter Devices:
Convertitore a T/Sito a sito,0x00200000,1,1,ksproxy.ax,6.01.7601.17514

Video Compressors:
WMVideo8 Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,wmvxencd.dll,6.01.7600.16385
WMVideo9 Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,wmvencod.dll,6.01.7600.16385
MSScreen 9 encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,wmvsencd.dll,6.01.7600.16385
DV Video Encoder,0x00200000,0,0,qdv.dll,6.06.7601.17514
MJPEG Compressor,0x00200000,0,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Codec Cinepak di Radius,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Logitech Video (I420),0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Codec Intel IYUV,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Microsoft RLE,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Microsoft Video 1,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514

Audio Compressors:
WM Speech Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,WMSPDMOE.DLL,6.01.7600.16385
WMAudio Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,WMADMOE.DLL,6.01.7600.16385
IMA ADPCM,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
PCM,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Microsoft ADPCM,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
GSM 6.10,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Messenger Audio Codec,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
CCITT A-Law,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
CCITT u-Law,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
AC3,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
DTS,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
MPEG Layer-3,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514

Audio Capture Sources:
Microfono (USB Speakers),0x00200000,0,0,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514

PBDA CP Filters:
PBDA DTFilter,0x00600000,1,1,CPFilters.dll,6.06.7601.17514
PBDA ETFilter,0x00200000,0,0,CPFilters.dll,6.06.7601.17514
PBDA PTFilter,0x00200000,0,0,CPFilters.dll,6.06.7601.17514

Midi Renderers:
Default MidiOut Device,0x00800000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Microsoft GS Wavetable Synth,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514

WDM Streaming Capture Devices:
,0x00000000,0,0,,
SAA7135 Analog TV Card,0x00200000,2,3,ksproxy.ax,6.01.7601.17514
SAA7135 Analog TV Card - Audio Capture,0x00200000,1,1,ksproxy.ax,6.01.7601.17514
USB Speakers,0x00200000,1,1,ksproxy.ax,6.01.7601.17514
Dispositivo video USB,0x00200000,1,1,ksproxy.ax,6.01.7601.17514

WDM Streaming Rendering Devices:
ATI HD Audio HDMI out,0x00200000,1,1,ksproxy.ax,6.01.7601.17514
Altoparlante HD Audio,0x00200000,1,1,ksproxy.ax,6.01.7601.17514
SPDIF in uscita HD Audio,0x00200000,1,1,ksproxy.ax,6.01.7601.17514

BDA Source Filters:
SAA7135 Digital TV Card,0x00200000,1,1,ksproxy.ax,6.01.7601.17514

BDA Network Providers:
Microsoft ATSC Network Provider,0x00200000,0,1,MSDvbNP.ax,6.06.7601.17514
Microsoft DVBC Network Provider,0x00200000,0,1,MSDvbNP.ax,6.06.7601.17514
Microsoft DVBS Network Provider,0x00200000,0,1,MSDvbNP.ax,6.06.7601.17514
Microsoft DVBT Network Provider,0x00200000,0,1,MSDvbNP.ax,6.06.7601.17514
Microsoft Network Provider,0x00200000,0,1,MSNP.ax,6.06.7601.17514

Video Capture Sources:
SAA7135 Analog TV Card,0x00200000,2,3,ksproxy.ax,6.01.7601.17514
Dispositivo video USB,0x00200000,1,1,ksproxy.ax,6.01.7601.17514

Multi-Instance Capable VBI Codecs:
VBI Codec,0x00600000,1,4,VBICodec.ax,6.06.7601.17514

BDA Transport Information Renderers:
BDA MPEG2 Transport Information Filter,0x00600000,2,0,psisrndr.ax,6.06.7601.17514
MPEG-2 Sections and Tables,0x00600000,1,0,Mpeg2Data.ax,6.06.7601.17514

WDM Streaming TV Tuners:
SAA7135 Analog TV Card - TV Tuner,0x00200000,0,2,kstvtune.ax,6.01.7601.17514

WDM Streaming Crossbars:
SAA7135 Analog TV Card - Crossbar,0x00200000,6,2,ksxbar.ax,6.01.7601.17514

WDM Streaming TV Audio:
SAA7135 Analog TV Card - TV Audio,0x00200000,1,1,ksxbar.ax,6.01.7601.17514

BDA CP/CA Filters:
Decrypt/Tag,0x00600000,1,1,EncDec.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Encrypt/Tag,0x00200000,0,0,EncDec.dll,6.06.7601.17514
PTFilter,0x00200000,0,0,EncDec.dll,6.06.7601.17514
XDS Codec,0x00200000,0,0,EncDec.dll,6.06.7601.17514

WDM Streaming Communication Transforms:
Convertitore a T/Sito a sito,0x00200000,1,1,ksproxy.ax,6.01.7601.17514

Audio Renderers:
Altoparlanti (Dispositivo High ,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
AMD HDMI Output (AMD High Defin,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Audio digitale (S/PDIF) (Dispos,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Default DirectSound Device,0x00800000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Default WaveOut Device,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
DirectSound: Altoparlanti (Dispositivo High Definition Audio),0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
DirectSound: AMD HDMI Output (AMD High Definition Audio Device),0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
DirectSound: Audio digitale (S/PDIF) (Dispositivo High Definition Audio),0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514

BDA Receiver Components:
SAA7135 Digital TV Card - Digital Capture,0x00200000,1,1,ksproxy.ax,6.01.7601.17514

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EVR Power Information
---------------
Current Setting: {5C67A112-A4C9-483F-B4A7-1D473BECAFDC} (Quality)
Quality Flags: 2576
Enabled:
Force throttling
Allow half deinterlace
Allow scaling
Decode Power Usage: 100
Balanced Flags: 1424
Enabled:
Force throttling
Allow batching
Force half deinterlace
Force scaling
Decode Power Usage: 50
PowerFlags: 1424
Enabled:
Force throttling
Allow batching
Force half deinterlace
Force scaling
Decode Power Usage: 0
nopadon [Avatar]
Newbie Joined: Jun 16, 2011 04:11 Messages: 3 Offline
[Post New]
same problem

with ATI HD6850


I got "unable to start 3d playback on this device, please try another one"
when I try to use 3d hdmi1.4

but when i switch to gt520 3d work fine




HD6850 driver 11.5

windows 7 ultimate 64bit

LG 42LW6500 with hdmi 1.4a

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at Jun 16. 2011 04:15

jay7son [Avatar]
Newbie Joined: Jun 16, 2011 11:59 Messages: 1 Offline
[Post New]
a year ago i bought into all the 3d hype, buying a optoma dw318 and some optoma 3d glasses and an ati 5850 gfx card
the 5850 was marketed as atis new card with 3d support. these were complete lies on atis behalf they kept promising the
drivers through iz3d but none of us in various 3d forums could get it to work.
so 2 months later i bouhgt an nvidia 260 and the 3d vision kit and amazingly it worked in my 3d games

i have always preferred ati cards for being better value than nvidia but when it comes to drivers forget ati.
at least nvidia give some support through their forums and generaly their drivers work

a word of advice if you do go for the nvidia route their glasses are crap giving flashes throughout the 3d experience
but using the optoma glasses and the nvidia usb reciever dongle thing is much better , even though the optoma glasses are made of brittle plastic and broke in the first week.
i have just sold the 5850 and have lost £100 in a year all because i believed ati
im going to upgrade to a nvidia 560ti as the 260 only just works on demanding games in 3d.

the good news is the nvidia setup also works with powerdvd 11 in 3d as i just got tron working!

a word of warning for anyone going down this 3d route is you will spend all your time faffing with settings, more than
you will spend actually watching or playing in 3d, trying to get better pop out or depth.
let alone the it tech skills required, ie on my projector i had to pull out pins from the dvi plug to fool my pc into believing
it was connected to an acer projector so then i could install acer drivers which are nvidia 3d ready compliant
where as the optoma drivers aren't.

Lastly i would recommend a projector over a lcd led or plasma screen as you only really get depth with a screen no pop out,
and off putting ghosting.
maybe worth waiting for affordable 1.4 hdmi 1080p 3d projectors to hit the market, my optoma dw318 is 720p but was only £400 a yr ago but because of only 1.3 hdmi is not compatale with my ps3 for 3d, unless i buy an optoma add on 1.4 converter box for £250.

apologies for this long thread but 3d has been quite a learning experience
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