If I understand the question correctly, then no, there's not. __________________________________
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Hi Danny -

As Jaime says, there's no "Fade to/from black" transition built into PD.

That can be overcome with a timeline sequence like:
Clip 1 > Fade > Black Colour Board > Fade > Clip 2

Here's a way to apply any transition you like throughout your production in PD8... http://www.youtube.com/user/ynotfish77#p/u/18/y2aWV4QR3T8

You'll find that you can follow the same process in PD9 to repeat any transition available in the Transition Room... http://www.youtube.com/user/ynotfish77#p/u/6/70CTEAI9ozI

As Pax will describe below, this won't help you with your fade to black question... but it may help you in some other little way.

Cheerfully & generously - Tony
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For some reason I don't have audio at youTube today, so I didn't watch the video, yet, but I am looking at the lines 'automatically' and '...including new ones that I add'. I get the impression what is wanted here is an effect that is automatically added as the clips are added to the timeline. I'll watch later and see if that's what the video is about. __________________________________
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Jaime -

It's not... and PD can't.

Just thought it'd help with multiple transitions.

Cheers - Tony
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Hi!

Thank you both. I already have a black picture, that I use to fade out from in a different situation. I hadn't thought of simply doing the same, but on the last track, to get a "universal" fade.

The YouTube video was very helpful too. I hadn't noticed the Favorites before, it's very useful.

Brgds

Danny

Hi Danny,

Things have changed since Tony made the PD Toots he refers you to. Now, you can indeed apply random transitions to all clips, except fade in from black and fade out to black. That can only be done as a prefix transition to the first clip and as a postfix transition to the last clip with specific provided commands. There is a remaining command that applies the transition to all clips, but it does so as a cross transition, which is not to and from black.

In order to have a transition to and from black, you must put a fade transition to the end of a clip and another fade transition to the beginning of the next clip. The transitions work quite nicely together, but they are very labor intensive to apply. There is no easy work around, of which I am aware. Hopefully, Cyberlink will add this option at some point.

In the meantime, if anyone knows how to apply, or has developed a macro or something, that applies a fade to and from black to every clip, please explain how to do so or provide the workaround for Danny, myself, and many others. This is my preferred transition. I have earlier requested this transition when we were asked whether we preferred it or cross transitions as the default. I guess I, and those who voted with me did not prevail. However, I do not understand why we cannot have both, at least as options.

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Quote: Jaime -

It's not... and PD can't.

Just thought it'd help with multiple transitions.

Cheers - Tony

Ok, I thought I misunderstood the question. That's been happening a lot lately. __________________________________
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Pax -

Yes - things have certainly changed, including the transitions department. The procedure described in the toot I referenced has not. It applies to PD9 as it does to PD8.

... and wouldn't it be nice if you could copy and paste the combined postfix/prefix fade transitions! That would save a lot of dragging and dropping. At least it leaves out the black colour board between each clip that was necessary in PD8.

Cheers - Tony


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Thanks Tony.

You said, "and wouldn't it be nice if you could copy and paste the combined postfix/prefix fade transitions! That would save a lot of dragging and dropping. At least it leaves out the black colour board between each clip that was necessary in PD8." It seems that we are on the same side of the street. If so, I do not understand your response as to my earlier post.

I respectfully point out that your PD Toots http://www.youtube.com/user/ynotfish77#p/u/18/y2aWV4QR3T8 does not show any sub menu of the library menu when in the transitions room. (See attachment)

My PD9 2702 does have three sub options to both "Apply Random Transitions to all" and "Apply Random Transitions to Fade" (See attachment). You seem to acknowledge these options in your response. These sub menus, not appearing in your screen shot of the PD Toots, are what I have reference to in my earlier post. I do not know when these sub menus were applied to PD9, but, because of them, I cannot replicate the actions you describe in your PD Toots. I don't doubt that your Toot is complete as to PD8, but my PD9 is different.

Perhaps you will clarify. Do you have some further advice about this? Is your version of PD9 different than mine? Some sort of work around is what I was hoping for in my earlier post.javascript:emoticon(''); But, if I understand your response, quoted above, you do not have a work around?

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Oh....I'm struggelig here reading your long posts, Pax, to see if I can get things right-
and discover the points, and maybe what's important for you to make a point of.

My PD9 2702 does have three sub options to both "Apply Random Transitions to all" and "Apply Random Transitions to Fade".

Three?

Ok,
in my PD9 2330, I have 2 sub-options in the transition-window:

1) Apply random transitions to all
2) Apply fading transition to all.

Both these options have Prefix/Postfix/Cross as second choice.

But, and here's what I struggle with;
Wasn't Tony's toot about making a "master"-transition, one that you can store in your
favourites- and easily find/pick from there?

Please tell me, anyone, what's the issue/point here?


Edit: when reading your post yet again, Pax, see I might have gotten your listing of
your choices in the transition-window wrong. You do have only 2 options- with 3 sub-options (?), only
slightly different worded/texted than mine.


Just something.
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Hi Nina,

Sorry to be too wordy.

1. As Tony says, his toot still works for everything but fade from/to black.

2. The menu in PD9 is different. Tony's toot shows no sub options, even though it still works. So, go ahead and use it, even though it is different now.

3. This does not answer Danny's question; i.e., is there a way to apply a fade to/from black to all clips?

4. Tony and Jaime apparently do not believe so.

QUESTION, does anybody have a workaround? Perhaps some sort of macro?

Regards,

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Thanks, Pax-

that's a clear one!
Just something.
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Thanks Nina,

I should have done something like that in the first place.

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Thanks Nina (!) & Pax for helping to clarify.

A load of energy can be wasted trying to find differences, rather than similarities. A chimpanzee & a gorilla are different, Pax, but they still (essentially) give birth the same way!

1. The toot was never intended to provide answers for Danny's "Fade to Black" question. Pax's workaround does.
2. PD does not have a fade to black transition, apart from pre/postfix.
3. The drop down menus are different in PD8 & PD9, but the process is the same.



Cheers - Tony

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Thanks Tony.

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Hi!

Just so no one doubts it - my original question was answered long ago. And I'm happy.

The ensuing confusion was caused by an extra tip, which I also found helpful. Which probably caused some further confusion as to which "direction" I was asking about. I was asking about transitions across all the tracks, vertically, even ones with no clips in them yet. The bonus tip was about transitions horizontally, within the tracks.

Brgds

Danny

Congratulations Tony, for consolidating your teachings in this thread into your first post. I think you fully and accurately set out, so that all can understand, the way transitions are selected with the new menu in PD9. In my book, you have risen from hero to Cheerful, Patient and Generous hero.

I see that Danny is happy too.

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