You got me thinking when you said black board, so here's what I ended up doing. I created a solid black box with MS paint, then added a Title to the end of the clip, removed all the text and inserted the black box .bmp stretching it to cover over all the video. The problem with using Transition is that the clip I wanted to fade to black was the end of a chapter, I could not prevent it from running into the next new chapter. Thanks for the help Brian - you revved up my nogin.