ATC 9K HD headcam, interesting camera. I have a ContourHD which records in the MOV format. I also have a waterproof casing. We'll have to compare qualities/failings another time

Mark, can you please provide a 5 to 10 second sample from your camera for me/others to check out and confirm? Thank you.

You should be using a SD Class 6 minimum for HD and especially if you're recording to 1080p 60fps. However I don't think I've hit that spec with my micro card and I haven't hit any problems but I've only recorded to 1080p 30fps.

Dafydd

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You should be using a SD Class 6 minimum for HD and especially if you're recording to 1080p 60fps.

Interesting you say that and I agree however my PanaTM700 specifies Class 4 and above and indeed I record onto a 32Gb class 4 without any problems in 1080p60. Some of the data recorded peaks over 36Mbps. I suspect the buffer within the camera allows for this. Panasonic SD9, Panasonic TM700, Panasonic SD600, GoPro HD Hero.

I have a 10 second HD 30 frames a second mov file. I didn't find a way to upload it here. I can post it on my server when I get home tonight and give you a link to it. Here is the link and I will get it posted tonight after 7pm:

http://readyrangers.tzo.com/atc9k.mov

Or if you have a quicker way let me know and I can upload it that way.

I checked out your camera and the gopro. I am often outside... camping, caving, hiking and backpacking, kayaking and I work outside as well for at&t. So a waterproof - shock proof was a big seller to me.

I have seen a lot of cameras ruined where I go so I got this just before Christmas. I have a peltzi helmet coming in this week to mount it on and I bought a CLASS 4 (recommended but your right a 6 would be faster a buddy bought a class 10 this last week) 32 gig card should be here this week as well.

Thanks for the interest in the video mov file. Quick time plays it fine. I am going to double check that PD8 plays and edits it fine tongiht but will need to remove 9 and reinstall. I want to double check it.

I am glad to help in any way I can.

Mark Jones 417-343-0463
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I did a search for the Panatm700 but didn't pull anything up except some non english sites. Is it a waterproof camera?

Mark Jones

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You should be using a SD Class 6 minimum for HD and especially if you're recording to 1080p 60fps.

Interesting you say that and I agree however my PanaTM700 specifies Class 4 and above and indeed I record onto a 32Gb class 4 without any problems in 1080p60. Some of the data recorded peaks over 36Mbps. I suspect the buffer within the camera allows for this.

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Wow,
That is so strange.
Ok, first off the video will be referred to CyberLink for them to download - please keep it on your server - thanks.

What happened to me was.
1. Playing the video in Preview from the Library - the video audio sound came through and the slider finished at 12+ seconds. The video continued to play even with the slider at the end point.
2. In Video Track 1: the 1080p 60fps, displayed no audio track.

Thank you for the information and I have passed the data on.
My ref 156

Dafydd

That is the same I was getting as well from my laptop and my desktop. Quicktime plays it fine and the player that came with the camera plays it fine.

Will try and get the PD8 installed and test it when I get home from work.

Mark Jones
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Ths is a short shot of the cave with the ATC 9k it's low end resolution but PD8 did render it with out any issues from the stock mov files. The player still has the same effect as PD9 with the video lagging well behind the audio but at least the PD8 will render the files.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtmqKoASNnk

PD8 rendered all my 4 hours of HD stock mov footage from my camera and rendered it into a AV file it took it 17 hours to do it...but it did it and I am sold on PD8.

The Batcave campout went well here is some pictures and a report will soon be posted with it as well.
http://readyrangers.tzo.com/2011Batcave/2011batcave.htm Pictures are coming in from about 4 sources. We had 52 camping in that cave.

I am liking pd8 more and more. It's doing the job and it's doing it well.

Mark Jones
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Hi

Pana TM700 here as well. I am pretty sure I've seen the video continue after the end of audio and timer bar at the right end with KMPlayer as well. It's not just a PD9 glitch but probably something unexpected in the Pana file.

Hi Gary,
Just so you know - Mark isn't using a Panasonic (interesting input though).
ATC 9K HD headcam.
Yesterday I uploaded the file for CL to test - they couldn't access mark's file.
Dafydd

I did a web update and it cleans files that are not part of my website. Sorry about that.

PD8 renderes the mov files and shows the audio on the time line. PD9 didn't show the audio part of the mov file.

The player in both pd8 and pd9 plays the video but it lags way behind the audio.

Pd8 produces raw mov files with perfect sync and they play great. I love pd8. I look forward to the pd9 fix.

PowerDirector is a great program. I love it's ease of use and its power.

Mark Jones ReadyRangers
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Oh no. I thought I was doing something wrong. I'm having the same problem: No .mov files will show or play the audio tracks when inserted into a timeline in Power Director 9. The videos were taken in 720p with a Kodak v1073 old school camera. They play fine with quick time and vlc.

PD8 is rendering them just fine and the audio files are showing on the time line. I just for a test compiled 40 gig of mov files into a avi file and PD8 rendering it in 17 hours. I was astounded. The video played fine I only watched about 5 minutes of it then deleted it.

Yet from my experience with video editing. I was impressed with PD8. It rarely locks up here. If I give it time it does it's job.

Mark Jones ReadyRangers
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Quote: Oh no. I thought I was doing something wrong. I'm having the same problem: No .mov files will show or play the audio tracks when inserted into a timeline in Power Director 9. The videos were taken in 720p with a Kodak v1073 old school camera. They play fine with quick time and vlc.

Please attach a 5 to 10 second sample from your camera and:
1. Your issue can be confirmed
2. The file can be made available to CL to correct the situation.

Your cooperation in providing a sample file is essential if you want the video to work.

Note: The problem of mov recognition in PD9 does not apply to all mov files, only to a few and to the newest cameras. Obscure codecs (sometimes in old cameras) or those that have 64bit recognition issues are often to blame.

Dafydd

I am again impressed. Last night I took a 20 minute stock mov file from my ATC 9K camera and put it on the time line in PD8 and ran a tool on it to make it steady. I watched this morning and compared it to the original footage. It makes a big difference in the footage. GREAT JOB PowerDirector.

I am looking forward to the patch so I can move my editing up to PD9.

Mark Jones ReadyRangers
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Hi Mark,
I think it's the 64bit issue which is the problem - CL will get there.

Good to see the photos.

Your HeadCam is more "off-set" than what mine is. How did you cope with the "new eye"? Did you get the right angle and look? The head cam I have presents a 135 degree lens which does bend the scene somewhat. As I intend using the video at sea (horizons that go uphill isn't my aim) to snap dolphins - I will consider reversing the distortion with some judicious editing - altering the perspective of the video (stretch it) in PiP Designer and using crop.

Thanks

Dafydd

The ATC 9k has a 130 degree Lens as well. The fish eye effect showed up in some of the pictures as well. Here is how I had my camera mounted on my climbing helmet.

http://readyrangers.tzo.com/2011Batcave/DSC_0085.jpg

I was very pleased with the headcam it came out better then what I thought it would. I was able to get 4 hours of HD 30 frames a second video.

Considering I lost the functions of a video camera in the back of that cave once.. I was not wanting to repeat it. I heard another guy lost his camera function in the cave as well. I did warn them. The humidity is really high there.

It was cool being able to record 4 hours of antics around the cave around the fire and in our council fire services. The camera exceeded my expectations. It has its limitations but for those times when I am out on the trail, floating the river, climbing or rappelling or camping out miles from the vehicle this little gem works great. I used it to record a pole climbing the other day. It was a cool 0 degrees. I can just about forget its on my head and it just keeps recording.

Mark Jones


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Is this Readyrangers stuff a paid job? .....if so, I want in Panasonic SD9, Panasonic TM700, Panasonic SD600, GoPro HD Hero.

Yup it's called heavenly rewards. Right now on this ole earth.. Ma Bell- at&t pays my way with long days and 200 - 500 hours of over time in a year.

Royal Rangers can be found in most any Assemblies of God or Church of God Churches. It's a lot of work and alot of fun. Everything is bent around Jesus yet we don't use conventional preaching. We use the camping - scouting programs. It gives us the time to show by doing and living.

It's good stuff. I have been in it for 20 years.

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I found out why I had such a time installing PD8. I have Pinnacle Studio installed. It was locking down the Quck Tracks. I ended up uninstalling Pinnicle Studio Editions then running the SmartSound cleaners and everything is working now.

I didn't realize I didn't have smartsound in PD8 until last night. So I worked on it until about 10:30 until I finally reallized it was the Pinnicle HD that was keeping it from installing and that program was so buggy it rarely produced even a short movie with out a lot of work. It's gone. PowerDirector 8 is doing a great job and it hasn't locked up yet.

Mark Jones
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I tried Power Director 8, and it did the same thing.

Fortunately, it turns out that it was just that one .mov file. Other .movs taken from that same camera just minutes later work fine. Odd.