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Looking for the Best way to Capture my VHS Tapes Digitally
Carl312
Senior Contributor Location: Texas, USA Joined: Mar 16, 2010 20:11 Messages: 9090 Offline
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jerrys

Oh, yes there is a definite loss in quality in VHS EP mode. After all the tape is running at 1/3 the speed, you lose some of the higher frequencies in the recording, exactly where the detail is.

VHS is analog, DVD is Digital, so it is not a fair comparison.

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BillyC56 [Avatar]
Member Joined: Dec 12, 2010 10:31 Messages: 66 Offline
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Quote: lerxst01

The one that I have is a Magnavox Model# ZV427MG9

It was $168 plus tax at Walmart Feb 2010.
I am in Texas, USA.

It's one fault is no DL disks. The quality drops if you try to record more that 2 hours on a single layer DVD. It is capable of up to six hours, but the quality of the video is really poor if you exceed two hours.


this is the one I have also.I didn't find the quality really dropping off until you used either of the lower 2 recording modes,EP and SLP
PepsiMan
Senior Contributor Location: Clarksville, TN Joined: Dec 29, 2010 01:20 Messages: 1054 Offline
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happy new year.
lerxst01. magnavox you ordered will work provided you have s-video or rca cables. s-video is little bit better.
for your compact vhs, you'll need a vhs adapter.

i have panasonic dmr-ez47v with dv input and s-video. it does the same as magnavox and i've transfered my Beta, Super Beta, VHS, S-VHS, Hi8 and Di8 to DvD before i used pd v8. and remember what Baryddth said. it's Garbage In Garbage Out. generally save the signal at the fastest speed if you can. SP is 2 hours and XP is 1 hour. don't recommend either LP or EP for your VHS back up to DvD.

analog to digital conversion isn't what you expect so don't get disappointed. look at the bright side. after the conversion, you've saved your precious memory. some of my Beta, Super Beta, VHS, S-VHS, Hi8 and even Di8 tapes are getting bad and can not view anymore... it's a bad side having the magnetic tape. tape dries, stretches and looses tracking ability.

good luck.
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VideoEditor54321
Member Location: Las Vegas, Nevada Joined: Dec 25, 2010 12:19 Messages: 61 Offline
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I have a TV tuner on my PC. It uses coax inIt also has S-Video in for just this type of thing. I have an old VCR. It doesn't have S-Video out so I'm stuck with Coax.
I have a set of instructions from a friend to use first, S-Video out to S-Video in. If that is not an option, use RCS red, white yellow. The las t option and least desirable is the coax but it is a direct link from VCR to computer. I'm going to try this in a few moments.
The only VHS I have is live news coverage of 911 from Fox and NBC but I want these saved. I'll let you know how it goes. Dell Studio XPS 7100 Minitower:
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VideoEditor54321
Member Location: Las Vegas, Nevada Joined: Dec 25, 2010 12:19 Messages: 61 Offline
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Well, the tapes are not in with the rest of the 911 stuff so that is something that won't happen until I can locate them. Dell Studio XPS 7100 Minitower:
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Happy New Year to you too PepsiMan.

What do I need the cables for if the DVD/VCR combo unit I purchased has both devices internal?

Of course I'll need cables to hook it to the TV so I can see what I'm doing, but in terms of actual data transfer I assume that all goes on "within the box."

Once the analog tape is written to the DVD, I pop the DVD out of that unit, and pop it into my computer right? Or am I missing something?

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PepsiMan
Senior Contributor Location: Clarksville, TN Joined: Dec 29, 2010 01:20 Messages: 1054 Offline
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hello.
when i looked up carl's magnavox, it had S-Video In so carl can answer that if the s-video cable comes with the magnavox.

'...but in terms of actual data transfer I assume that all goes on "within the box." '

yes, the machine will do that. after the DvD is created then pd v9 will take over from there. that's it and enjoy.
get a bag of a pop corn and a soda... oh also videoeditor have said connecting to tv requires a coax...

joy joy joy.
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Carl312
Senior Contributor Location: Texas, USA Joined: Mar 16, 2010 20:11 Messages: 9090 Offline
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You can connect the Magnavox to the TV using component or composite Video cables plus the red and white stereo audio.

You need the composite video to see the VCR part, several things have to be setup via composite Video. Date and time have to setup via composite or S-Video.

THe Magnavox does not have an RF connection. (No Tuner) and no modulator.

The component Video ouput shows the DVD recording and playback. Carl312: Windows 10 64-bit 8 GB RAM,AMD Phenom II X4 965 3.4 GHz,ATI Radeon HD 5770 1GB,240GB SSD,two 1TB HDs.

OnTheWeb1
Contributor Location: Michigan USA Joined: Jan 02, 2009 12:58 Messages: 511 Offline
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Sony makes a device called DVDirect, which will capture your analog stuff directly to DVD discs. That takes care of the digitizing. You can get a refurbished one for $99 at TigerDirect (USA). Has RCA, Firewire, and USB ports.

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Carl312 et. al.,

Got my new (refurbished) Magnavox Model# ZV427MG9 from Amazon delivered for $87.04.

Did a test run with it last night and although the technology is old, it seems to work fine.

Thanks for the advice!
~Tim
Carl312
Senior Contributor Location: Texas, USA Joined: Mar 16, 2010 20:11 Messages: 9090 Offline
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lerxst01

Yep, Old tech, but still works.

Good Luck with your transfers. Carl312: Windows 10 64-bit 8 GB RAM,AMD Phenom II X4 965 3.4 GHz,ATI Radeon HD 5770 1GB,240GB SSD,two 1TB HDs.

Andres.R
Senior Member Location: Tartu, Estonia Joined: Dec 31, 2009 02:26 Messages: 263 Offline
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I had several VHS and I let them burn in proffesional service. Here it costs ca 3,20 EUR/hour
So, I got videos 7 DVD x 2 hours and have edit them over 1 year. For now I have left only 2 videos/clips (lucky me) and done is 131 (in Vimeo).
Please notice, that VOB files is difficult to edit - example, when you editing on the middle, other clip sometimes "breaking in on" (like from the beginning) etc. Editing is not easy, but what you get is worth of it!
Good luck! PowerDirector 17. Windows 10
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Carl312
Senior Contributor Location: Texas, USA Joined: Mar 16, 2010 20:11 Messages: 9090 Offline
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Hiielind

Yes, VOB can be difficult. If you are having problems editing VOB files, first be sure you have the VOB files on your hard drive.

If you are still having difficulty, them drop them all on the time and produce a MPEG2 HQ. That will make them much easier to edit.

I sometimes capture the DVD to MPEG2 HQ. Either way works.

I usually extract the closed captions from the VOB files and make a SRT file to bring into PD8 Subtitle Room. Carl312: Windows 10 64-bit 8 GB RAM,AMD Phenom II X4 965 3.4 GHz,ATI Radeon HD 5770 1GB,240GB SSD,two 1TB HDs.

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Carl,

The Magnavox unit worked great! Thanks for the advice!

~Tim
Carl312
Senior Contributor Location: Texas, USA Joined: Mar 16, 2010 20:11 Messages: 9090 Offline
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lerxst01,

The Magnavox unit worked great! Thanks for the advice!


You are welcome.

Carl312: Windows 10 64-bit 8 GB RAM,AMD Phenom II X4 965 3.4 GHz,ATI Radeon HD 5770 1GB,240GB SSD,two 1TB HDs.

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...oh yeah. Some of the VOB files were a bit glitchy so now I use Format Factory (thanks to vn800rider for the recommendation on this) to convert the VOB files to MPG files and then work with them in PD9.

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Here is a very low cost solution that I have used for old VHS tape captures.
http://www.meritline.com/showproduct.aspx?ProductID=41210&SEName=mygica-ezgrabber-2-usb-2-0-video-capture
$17.99 with free shipping can be beat. The quality has been just fine for me.
I use AVS Video Recorder to bring them in as Mpeg 2 and then clean them up in PD8.

I am thinking about upgrading to PD9 soon though.

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