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How do you Burn different projects to BD, without producing them first.
Aaron Richards [Avatar]
Newbie Location: Australia Joined: Jan 21, 2010 16:20 Messages: 24 Offline
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Is it possible to make different projects, and burn them to Blu Ray Disk without having to "Produce" all the projects first ?

Or must you "Produce" them all, and then add them to "Create Disk".

I know you can bypass "produce" and go directly to "Create Disk" with a single project, just wondering if, one day I can copy a whole bunch of projects to a BD without having to produce them all first.

My files are 1920x1080 24Mbps native, so I suppose if I do have to produce them all first, and save them in their native format, then if I do decide to copy them later to a BD, then I should not lose any quality.

Aaron
CubbyHouseFilms
Senior Contributor Location: Melbourne, Australia Joined: Jul 14, 2009 04:23 Messages: 2208 Offline
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Hi Aaron

Yes it is.

Just go straight to create disc.

Here's the link to the CL Youtube site. It has some excellent tutorials.

http://www.youtube.com/user/CyberLinkChannel
Let us know how you went.

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Andrew - Wales, UK
Contributor Location: Wales, UK Joined: Jan 27, 2009 19:16 Messages: 545 Offline
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Hi,

You can import other PD projects in onto one disc in the Create Disc module.

There's no need to pre-produce then. However, some tips!

1. Do not bother putting chapters in until you have imported all the individual projects in using Create Disc.
2. Once you have imported each project in, click on one of the projects you want to add chapters to, click Edit to go into the Edit module, put your chapters in, click on Create Disc and repeat the process for your other projects.
3. Be aware that once imported, the project you currently have open will be the master file, and the only one you should apply changes to from now on. Opening other individual projects thereafter that feed into the master file, and applying changes will have no effect on the master pds file!

The option to import PD8 projects is under the Content tab in Create Disc.

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Bob in Tucson
Member Location: Milwaukee, Denver, Tucson Joined: May 30, 2008 18:11 Messages: 133 Offline
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Hello,
...Here I'm only addressing HD Blu-ray stuff.
...My camera generates AVCHD files. (Canon HF-100)
...I choose to burn BDs in AVCHD (H.264) to get the most video I can on a disc.

So, let's say I build a single large project and go straight to burn.
I find that the burn usually will be successful if I burn in MPEG2 format,
but UNsuccessful when I select H.264 format. (get an error of some kind or the program freezes up.)
This is why I produce several smaller projects and produce each of those in H.264.
Then I add all of those produced videos together in 'create disc' (I add chapters to each during this process.)
Now the burn has a better chance of succeeding.
(did I explain that coherently?)
Plus, with several projects added together in 'create disc', you get that extra menu layer between the 'top' menu and the 'chapter' menus.

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Andrew - Wales, UK
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Hi Bob,

I also have the HFS-100. My video is shot in 25p 1920x1080 at 24mbps. When I go from the timeline with raw files on into 'Create Disc', I select H.264 1920x1080 (24mbps) on a blu-ray, and a 1hr 20min project will burn in 20mins, indicating SVRT is working perfectly.

Can you give me details of your raw files resolution, the mode your shooting in (25p/50i), and the options you are choosing in 'Create Disc' prior to burning.

Cheers,

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Bob in Tucson
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Hello, I shoot in FXP mode, 17 Mbps, 1920x1080, 60i. To burn, I like H.264 with HD 1920x1080. I also check the box: Enable hardware video encoder.

How do you like the MXP setting? Do you think it's better than FXP? I've seen a still picture comparison and MXP looks better than FXP. May I also ask what's your opinion of '24p Cinema Mode'?

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Andrew - Wales, UK
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Hi Bob,

Done a few checks. Shooting in 25p or 50i using the MXP 17mbps mode, SVRT will work with 1920x1080 H.264 encoding.

If you are having problems during production when using the settings you have stated, it may be worth going to the directors chair at the top right of the screen and selecting:

Edit->Preferences->Produce and then make sure the box next to 'allow SVRT on single IDR H.264 video' is ticked.

Ignore the warning message. Testing by me and others has indicated that, certainly for Sony and Canon owners, this MUST be ticked. Otherwise, if you put a transition between two clips, instead of just re-encoding the transition and leaving the other footage 'as is', PD8 re-encodes the transition and everything thereafter. This would put your PC under stress that it need not be under. The resulting footage won't be as good as it should and you are more open to crashes and hangs.

I've only recently had my Canon. I shoot in 25p Cinema Mode (not with the cine effect) and have found it to produce much more detailed and crisp picture than in 50i. It is also far better in low light. I don't plan to shoot in anything other than MXP 24mbps because most of what I shoot is of my 18 month old son, and I want the best the camera can offer.

The down side of shooting in 24mbps is that using SVRT with AVCHD DVD is now a no go, because AVCHD DVD doesn't support that bitrate hence I'd have to re-encode fist, or shoot in 17mbps.

All my work goes onto blu-ray, with a 25gb disc holding about 2 hours 15 minutes of footage in my preferred method of shooting.

Cheers,

Andrew

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Bob in Tucson
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Hi, Andrew.
It's now apparent to me that 'allow SVRT on single IDR H.264 video' makes a great difference across the board for producing and burning. You know I knew about that box, but was not sure what it was used in conjuction with....
It didn't seem to work right away. I had to burn a few times, either to a DVD Folder or to BD, b4 I was successful.
(My test project was composed of 5 projects which totaled 24180 MB of the max 24202 MB allowed by PD.)
Hope this is the way it will work hence forth.
I just now became aware that one can go straight to 'Creat Disc' and bring in either clips or projects.
(where have I been?.... dah!)
Thanks a great deal for the info.

My Canon has the first 4 of these recording settings like yours does.
I was planning to upgrade to a Canon that includes the MXP setting.
I saw a side-by-side comparison of the FXP to MXP and the MXP looked quite a bit better.
But , if you're saying that PD is not yet compatable with MXP files(?),
I'll have to put that idea on hold.

LP (5 Mbps) 12 hours 15 minutes
SP (7 Mbps) 9 hours 35 minutes
XP+ (12 Mbps) 5 hours 45 minutes
FXP (17 Mbps) 4 hours 10 minutes - Allows 1920 x 1080 Full HD Recording
MXP (24 Mbps) 2 hours 55 minutes - Allows 1920 x 1080 Full HD Recording

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Andrew - Wales, UK
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Hi Robert,

PD8 is compatible with the MXP 24mbps using SVRT but in Create Disc you have to select the 1920x1080 (24mbps) option as opposed to the normal 1920x1080 option.

However, this only applies to blu-ray not AVCHD DVD as these don't support the 24mbps bitrate.

I'm delighted my advice helped you.

The 24mbps production using progressive shooting is superb, highly recommended!

Cheers,

Andrew

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