Hi Richard

Welcome to the PD8 forum.

I not sure why it shows a green line.

However, a work around is to produce the clip and use the crop function and crop it out and then produce it again.

Happing editing

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Richard,

Let's have a sample video file from your camera and then see if the issue can be duplicated on other systems.

Please add your camera details and PC spec and then I'll send you upload information for the video file after you've carried out the task. You'll see a whole list of cameras. The Canon HG21 PAL is currently not listed.

Please add your set up spec as well. Thanks

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http://forum.cyberlink.com/forum/posts/list/8445.page
Please add your camera spec here:
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Thanks
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Dafydd
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Hi Richard -

Since you're a fellow Australian, I'll try to give you this not-so-happy news as gently as I can...

You're working with clips shot at 24MBps (which you've slowed down & then added a blur transition) on a dual core machine with a seriously underpowered graphics card. Check out this benchmark chart... http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-geforce-gtx,2270-6.html

I am assuming you are talking about how the transition appears in the preview window... yes? (not in a produced file)

The way to fix it is to upgrade your hardware. I know - who wants to spend money? Seriously, the bottom line is that's the way to fix it. If you want to work with HD video, Richard, that's all you can do.

Had you recorded at (say) 12MBps with your Canon, you'd probably not have this issue.

Sorry mate -

Cheers - Tony

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Thanks Dafydd, I will try to get that done tomorrow.

Thanks for the reply Tony, you haven't given me any bad news as there was none to give. Perhaps I should have outlined my hardware more fully so as not to waste your time, also I was unaware of the existance of the GeForce board of the same number, I will update my signature. I built the computer as a CAD workstation with the intent of some NLE.

The preview window is flawless, and it is in the produced files where the problem lies.


(Austalian Politics - Trust no one) Richard

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Aaaaaah! One little word can make a bit of a difference!

http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/video_lookup.php?cpu=Quadro+FX+5600

No worries Richard. Upload some clips (as per Dafydd's suggestion) and I'll see how they behave over here.

Cheers - Tony


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Update.

Richard has provided a good number of sample video files about 10 seconds long from his Canon HG 21.

So far I have downloaded 3 of them 50i, 25p 24Mbps @ 1920x1080 and one @ 25p 12Mbps 1440x1080. So far I have not been able to replicate the green bar blur at the bottom of the video. I have added the blur transition and I have zoomed in with a software to view the preview screen in PD. No problems.

I have used both CyberLink PowerDirector to display the video and I have used to display and preview CyberLink's MediaShow 5.

I have suggested to Richard to check and update his video card drivers. I'll have to have a think before I can give any further suggestions but do wonder if there is an AMD cpu issue.

Richard's camera and spec can be viewed here:
Camera: http://forum.cyberlink.com/forum/posts/preList/8727/44594.page#44594
Spec: http://forum.cyberlink.com/forum/posts/preList/8445/44540.page#44540

Dafydd
[Moderator]

Richard & Dafydd -

Downloaded both Richard's 24MBps (50i & 25p) clips and repeated test, according to Richard's outline above... see timeline image attached.

Clip 1 > 2sec Blur > Clip 2 (0.5 speed).
In each case, video played correctly in preview window.

Produced in AVCHD 1920x1080 @ 24MBps
No green line. Plays correctly till image shudder @ 00:00:05:00, then sudden surge in volume @ 00:00:10:00.
(same result for 25p & 50i clips)

Produced in 1920x1080
No green line. No shudder. No surge in volume. Plays correctly.
(same result for 25p & 50i clips)

Repeated tests above with Fade instead of Blur. All produced files play correctly.

Cheers - Tony

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@Tony
Thanks for the test, interesting that you induced a different fault but only in the single test, one seemingly unrelated fault at 5:00s and the other possiblily related at 10:00s. There are so many variables. I seem to remember in one of my test using multiple 0.5x speed that the video would sometimes be OK after the transition.


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Regards Richard

Camera Canon HG21 PAL, PD-Ultra v8.00.2508
PC Asus KFN32-D SLI, Dual Opteron 2216, 4GB ECC Registered, Nvidia Quadro FX5600 Driver v181.20, Vista x64 Ultimate SP2, Plenty of fast HDD Space.

Out of interest, I downloaded the following files and performed the same test, adjusting the TV format as necessary and producing to different AVCHD high bitrate files.

Tony_1920x1080_24MBps_CanonHFS100.mts - FAIL (PAL)
Dafydd_720p_30fps_SANY0749.MP4 - PASS (NTSC)
DafyddV_720p_30fps_FILE0018.MP4 - PASS (NTSC)
Bob inTucson_CanonHF100_60i_amtrak.m2ts - FAIL (NTSC)




I will download some more high bitrate files from other cameras in various formats and update the list accordingly Richard

Camera Canon HG21 PAL, PD-Ultra v8.00.2508
PC Asus KFN32-D SLI, Dual Opteron 2216, 4GB ECC Registered, Nvidia Quadro FX5600 Driver v181.20, Vista x64 Ultimate SP2, Plenty of fast HDD Space.

Hi Richard,

I got mixed results on the same project file initially.
CanonHG21_MPEG-4_AVCHD_MXP_24Mbps_1920x1080_25p_DD2ch.m2ts
Green bar - yes in PAL, no in NTSC - the NTSC suffered a bit.
I then played around a bit more swapping the clips the motion was to be changed on and carrying out NTSC and PAL checks. I replicated the bug.

Slow Motion video with frame interpolated technology Looks to be the cause.

I also decided to exclude one of your selection in PowerTools for a PAL test, I retained Video Speed adjustment. Video played without issue.

I apologise for not being thorough enough the first time I check.

INFO from Richard:
Place two (2) copies of the video into the timeline.
Select the second video and add a power tool "video speed":
- reduce video speed by 0.5x
- check the slow motion video with frame interpolation
- check the "stretch audio"

Now produce using pretty much any profile you like and see if the lovely green bar appears in the second half of the video. Note it is not present in the preivew. I have tried several profiles all with the same result.

The source of the video tested are those provided by PowerDirector Editors who have posted their camera information and uploaded sample video clips.

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Have you seen this, please add your spec?
http://forum.cyberlink.com/forum/posts/list/8445.page
Please add your camera spec here:
http://forum.cyberlink.com/forum/posts/list/8727.page
Thanks
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I'll ask CyberLink R&D to look at the post here and see if they can replicate the bug Richard has found.

Thank you Richard.
Dafydd
[Moderator]

I have the same problem and it happens with slo mo and sometimes with Lighting Adjustment. To fix it I use the crop tool. That works fine. It's a pain because the green bar shows up after the rendering.

Hi guys,

I placed a call at CL R&D more that 4 months ago, and they are still working on this issue, confirming that they were able to reproduce it.

In my case the green bar only occurs when I use MTS files from my Panasonic camera as basis, then apply "slow motion video with frame interpolation" effect and produce it to any format.

A pain indeed as tony avs mentioned, especially because frame interpolation would give you a smoother, less choppy output than the "classic" version of slow motion as it was already available in previous PD versions.

Though my case is quite a long-runner, I'm still hoping that it might be solved with a product update

PC: Intel Core2Duo E8600 2,66 GHz, 4 GB RAM
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GPU: NVidia GeForce 8500 with 512 MB Video RAM
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