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I am producing a long video with lots of audio, images and video clips.
The final video may be as long as two hours.
I am thinking the best way to manage the production is to divide the production into multiple segments, edit and produce each as a separate project, and then combine all the projects into a master project using the nesting feature.
Would anyone recommend a better strategy for managing production of a long film project?
Is the above strategy the most efficient way to proceed so I do not overload the Power Director program?
Thanks
Hi,
That would be one way if that workflow fits your production methods.
Except for the smallest projects, I now tend towards splitting a production into sections and combining the produced sub-projects later. If SVRT can be activated and it works satisfactorily for you, then the speed of final production can be very fast. It also allows for re-editing each sub-project easily without having to re-run and check the whole complex timeline.
This post, re editing on a laptop, has a little more detail : https://forum.cyberlink.com/forum/posts/list/76104.page#311300
Hope that helps,
Adrian.
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What about the image quality,the same as with jpg (compression) ....bad,or does it not matter?
Hi,
SVRT acts to render only those portions of a project that have been modified. Other "unmodified" portions are not rendered. This has 2 implications:
- It is much quicker
- It does not alter the source material
CL FAQ here states the parameters necessary for SVRT to work : https://www.cyberlink.com/support/product-faq-content.do?id=7271&prodId=4&prodVerId=-1&CategoryId=-1&keyword=SVRT
PDR17 help says :
"Intelligent SVRT* (Smart Video Rendering Technology) is a proprietary rendering technology from CyberLink that assists in the output of your video productions by suggesting which video profile you should use.
Note: * optional feature in CyberLink PowerDirector. Check the version table on our web site for detailed versioning information.
Based on the format of original video clips in your project, what portions of the clips were modified (and therefore require rendering during production), and which portions of them were not changed (and thus can be skipped over during the rendering process), Intelligent SVRT suggests the video profile that will result in the best output quality possible, and save you the most time during production."
Hope that helps
Adrian
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Hi Members,
Issue 11 of PDNews is now available.
Previous issues can be downloaded from this page:
https://forum.cyberlink.com/forum/posts/list/0/77341.page#316525
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Hi Members,
Issue 11 of PDNews is now available.
Previous issues can be downloaded from this page:
https://forum.cyberlink.com/forum/posts/list/0/77341.page#316525
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Hi Members,
Issue 11 of PDNews is now available.
This issue was originally planned to be published in the week or so after the launch of PDR17/365, and was to include an interview with a senior exec in CyberLink. Unfortunately, events and logistics conspired against us, so the interview is scheduled for the next edition towards the end of the month.
This issue is really a quick introduction to some of the main menu changes in 17 and one or two observations.
Previous Issues can be downloaded here:
Issue 1
Issue 2
Issue 3
Issue 4
Issue 5
Issue 6
Issue 7
Issue 8
Issue 9
Issue 10
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Hi Members,
Issue 10 of PDNews is now available.
This issue is a bit heavy on technicalities, but I think it's worth the read.
It covers info on h264.v.h265, AV1 and JEVT as well as HEIF and HEIC. If you don't know what the acronyms mean - have a glance through and get a bit more informed.
I spent a lot of years as a business consultant - a colleague once said " if you know one more fact than the next guy - you're the expert", so here's your chance!
Previous Issues can be downloaded here:
Issue 1
Issue 2
Issue 3
Issue 4
Issue 5
Issue 6
Issue 7
Issue 8
Issue 9
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Hi Members,
Issue 10 of PDNews is now available.
This issue is a bit heavy on technicalities, but I think it's worth the read.
It covers info on h264.v.h265, AV1 and JEVT as well as HEIF and HEIC. If you don't know what the acronyms mean - have a glance through and get a bit more informed.
I spent a lot of years as a business consultant - a colleague once said " if you know one more fact than the next guy - you're the expert", so here's your chance!
Previous Issues can be downloaded here:
Issue 1
Issue 2
Issue 3
Issue 4
Issue 5
Issue 6
Issue 7
Issue 8
Issue 9
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Hi Members,
Issue 10 of PDNews is now available.
This issue is a bit heavy on technicalities, but I think it's worth the read.
It covers info on h264.v.h265, AV1 and JEVT as well as HEIF and HEIC. If you don't know what the acronyms mean - have a glance through and get a bit more informed.
I spent a lot of years as a business consultant - a colleague once said " if you know one more fact than the next guy - you're the expert", so here's your chance!
Previous Issues can be downloaded here:
Issue 1
Issue 2
Issue 3
Issue 4
Issue 5
Issue 6
Issue 7
Issue 8
Issue 9
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"Now, I guess I have to go through all of this back and forh on yet another manufacturer's forums before I ever find a softtware."
Hi,
If I might step in here.
It appears that what is being sought is a definitive hardware and software system configuration. However, over the years, as many folk have found out, and as many experienced folk have advised, there is no definitive system configuration. If I use a simplistic scenario to illustrate the point, you may liken your search to asking the general question of "what's the best vehicle?".
Many manufactuers will advertise, promote or stretch the merits of their vehicle - but what that means for any prospective user all depends on what the user actually, realistically, in practice wants,needs or can handle. So, in the car market (ignoring the best trucks and other vehicles), in purely technical terms the Hennessey Venom F5 has 1,600 hp whereas the Koenigsegg Agera RS has only 1,160 - a significant difference - but perhaps not meaningful for the average school run (or even on the racetrack??). Again, to quote a european SUV review - "While some SUVs are as talented off the beaten track as they are on the road, a large proportion are expected to stay on tarmac, having been chosen for their desirability rather than functionality." So what price the rave reviews and marketing blurb, not to mention the technical specs and debates on off road performance in the amazon jungle?
I realise I am being mildy provocactive, but it is only to make the point that there is no point in seeking a definitive answer to such broad questions.
Jeff and others have great experience in doing practical comparisons of system and software performance, usually in typical "real world" scenarios, and the advice they offer can be extremely valuable both to existing users and prospective users. But it will never produce the definitive system decision, that must be up to the user to take the advice, marry it to their own experience, other sources and comparators and make their own decision.
As to PDR, the software is not classed as top of the range professional, nor is it marketed and priced as such - so such comparisons might be seen as less useful. However, PDR is generally held to be among the top "prosumer" NLE software on the market. As with other NLEs it is not perfect, and there are idiosyncrasies, implementation issues, bugs etc. and perhaps some of these could be better addressed, better documented and better resolved - but, for a wide range of users, it broadly does what it says on the tin.
So if, after this thread has covered quite a wide range of ground, you are still unsure then, yes, you may well have to continue your search for your definitive software and harware configuration.
C'est la vie?
Adrian
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Hi,
This post might point in a direction.
https://forum.cyberlink.com/forum/posts/list/76104.page#311300
The key is to plan and use SVRT properly and then the use of multiple sub-projects doesn't require any re-rendering (other than joining transitions etc) so degredation is not an issue and rendering time is greatly reduced.
It sometimes seems counter-intuitive but, whilst a project is seen as a whole and the produced video has to be seen and experienced as a whole, it doesn't have to be edited like that - one of the beauties of NLE software!
From experience, particularly with SVRT (if you can get it to work well for you) there really is much less need to have long and complex project timelines, with all the logistics of moving around and ensuring late edits don't screw up the timing etc. etc.
It's well worth exploring and perhaps planning your shooting and workflow with that in mind.
Adrian
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Hi,
The key to comfortable editing on a laptop is exactly as you suggest - split your project into smaller sub-projects.
The beauty of getting SVRT to work means that, once each section is encoded (which it would have to be anyway), then the final full render takes far fewer resources for a much shorter time.
Points to note:
- Sub-projects can be long or short, perhaps determined by context, but allow for the final joining process - otherwise any transitions will eat into the finished clip.
- Audio joining can be an issue, but again, careful editing and selection of section start and finish points makes it easier.
- Editing a small sub-project for a minor glitch is then so much easier than having a massive and complex timeline to handle.
- Assembling your project in sections also allows choices and decisions as you go along, because it is so much easier to render and review so that you can get the flow and feel right.
Personally, having travelled extensively with my trusty i5 laptop (now several years old) for several months at a time - I have got into the habit, so even on my desktop I prefer to do that. I've just done a 5 min video - mainly slideshow combinations for an art exhibition - but it has 6 sections, each independently edited and produced with 3 audio beds running through and some custom titles/video transitions. It could easily be done in one, but I just find it easier to do in sections.
All depends on getting SVRT to work effectively for you!!!
Try it and see, it really can take the strain out of things.
Adrian
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Hi Members,
Issue 9 of PDNews is now available.
Articles on Audio Management and LUTs are featured, as well as the usual Freebies and Things of Interest.
Previous Issues can be downloaded here:
Issue 1
Issue 2
Issue 3
Issue 4
Issue 5
Issue 6
Issue 7
Issue 8
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Hi Members,
Issue 9 of PDNews is now available.
Articles on Audio Management and LUTs are featured, as well as the usual Freebies and Things of Interest.
Previous Issues can be downloaded here:
Issue 1
Issue 2
Issue 3
Issue 4
Issue 5
Issue 6
Issue 7
Issue 8
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Hi Members,
Issue 9 of PDNews is now available.
Articles on Audio Management and LUTs are featured, as well as the usual Freebies and Things of Interest.
Previous Issues can be downloaded here:
Issue 1
Issue 2
Issue 3
Issue 4
Issue 5
Issue 6
Issue 7
Issue 8
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Hi,
Just on a very quick troubleshoot - so no warranty on this one!
If you are comfortable using regedit to view (and possibly change) your windows registry you might try looking at the following key:
Computer\HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\CyberLink\PowerDirector16\AuMixerMute
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If you are not comfortable with messing with the registry, please don't - it is a complex and critical Windows resource and any wrong steps might be a bit terminal!!
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When the icon is muted it has the value 01 00 00 00
when the icon is unmuted the value is 00 00 00 00
As far as I can tell, the value is set when PDR is closed and retained for the next launch.
So, if it is 01 00 00 00 after closing PDR down, you could modify the key to 00 00 00 00 and that should then unmute the speakers on the next launch of PDR.
Why it has got stuck, I have no idea!! Maybe this will reset it?
It might be worth a look??
Adrian
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Hi,
There are a couple of points to take into account:
If you wish to temporarily swap audio and video from Cam1 to Cam2, as you suggest, you will get a "different" audio - as in quality, ambience etc depending on the camera setup and location, and that might sound peculiar in the final production.
Ideally, as has been suggested, you would need a master continuous audio to use as a synching baseline.
So to avoid the first and get the second, why not try to get one continuous audio from the two videos sources? Without knowing the exact details and how many small breaks etc. have to be filled in, it might be a relatively simple job?
That audio file can then perhaps be used as the baseline for the multicam synch and cuts that you want?
Adrian
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As Robert says, there is no current solution from within PDR16.
I explored a possible method in PDNews Issue 7:
https://forum.cyberlink.com/forum/posts/list/64399.page#post_box_293280
but it does involve an amount of complexity, and is not completely foolproof!
However, it might help if you really need to use the embedded metadata as your index.
Adrian
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Hi,
I did a little more by way of checking :
The original .pds file would not open and play correctly with either v.2313 or v.2524
However, if the collage effect was removed on the slideshows the project played through correctly.
If the original slideshow section with collage effect was simply copied and pasted into a new project as a standalone it played through correctly.
If the collage effect was removed in the original file, another effect applied and a "new" .pds file created (as I did originally) everything played correctly.
If the new .pds file was opened and the collage effect re-applied again (to mimic your original project) it played through fine.
Without going on forever, I suspect that your original .pds file had a glitch in it and was giving your system a choke.
Adrian
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Hi,
My PDR16 is v.2313. I have not applied the latest patch.
I looked at your project. It appears that the crash occurs with the particular slideshow effects you applied. It crashes on my system as well.
I have removed the effects and applied another slideshow effect which works fine. I have not done any other editing other than move the opening title to a more central position.
The project appears to produced correctly to a standard 1080p .mp4
I have uploaded the packed project including the final file to a onedrive folder, I'll PM the details later when it has completed.
Your system may well be underpowered but I think the issue might be with those effects - I'll do some more testing later. There have been reports that this crash type is related to a win10 update but.....???
Hope this helps.
Adrian
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"In the past we have been able to upload longer videos, any reason why we can't now, we appreciate your answer."
No idea why it would have changed now, but I recall that when Youtube increased its limits years ago, PDR wouldn't allow videos longer than 15mins unless the registry key was edited to increase the time limit.
I note that the key in my PDR15 still stands at 15mins so maybe altering it might help? I don't use the inbuilt youtube uploader so I have no recent experience, I'm afraid.
If you want the details to try, please PM me.
Adrian
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Hi,
I have the same Win10 version 1709 build 16299.248 updated today containing the KernelBase.dll 10.0.16299.248 (modified 10 Feb 201.
My version of PDR16 Ultimate 16.0.2313.0 seems to function fine.
If you haven't seen this :
https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-performance/windows-10-application-crash-kernelbasedll/effd2d14-3a80-4962-9aed-3166d41e1b9b?auth=1
it might be of use?
Adrian
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