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Hey Nic.
Thanks for that great response, and funny you should explain that, I actually have done that, I bought a Panasonic video to dvd dubbing vcr dvd combo unit. I did dub all the video to dvd, but I feel like the vob files aren't what they could be.
So I'm trying the convert.
Kmot, I haven't even tried the diamond. I'm glad, if you say it isn't much, that I didn't!
John, Jaime, Carl...everyone...
I bought the canopus. Just about to try it. I got a firewire card put into my new pc, (it was too new to have one!!).
AND I bought a second hand Panasonic vcr, just incase I need it. I do have my original sony camcorder, so most of the tapes can play through it.
Now...someone said somewhere here they had better results throught he S video than the um...three coloured ports.
I wonder why?
I'll respond when I've had a go at it.  Very pleased.
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What, and where is a profile.ini ??
The original profile of the clip says 16:9
the profile of the produced clip is somehow 64:27 (that's 16:9 x 4:3) resulting in the stretch at times.
weird.
Can you see my screen shots Jaime? The ones that show the stretch? That's what I'm seeing after production, both in preview screen and W media player.
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Yes Jaime, this clip is an example of the error.
I'm VERY surprised that you say it played ok for you.
On both the preview screen in CL and on Media player, for me, it's first 5 seconds is stretched, the next 15 (where the title starts) is normal, then reverts back to stretched in the next clip of the kids in the hammock. You can only tell by looking at the people, who are stretched horizontally and by the black bars.
what player did you use?
The Custom format I chose thru svrt. It is Mpeg2 720 x 576 25fps 8400k.
What I noticed just now, that is REALLY weird, is that the aspect ratio of the produced clip says 64:27 !!!?
Mathematically, 64:27 is 16:9 x 4:3! What the???
That would make sense to me. Somehow something is stretched,...ie, twice what it should be. So seems the 16:9 original clip, is somehow being stretched again 4:3.
I just don't see how.
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John, no longer have an old analogue, so following the best option of getting the canopus ADVC 110 + I have to get a firewire expansion card. All will be done in the next week, then I can start. Goodie.
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more files.
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This is a problem I've had since 2008 - Footage taken on my old (horrible) std def, JVC camera.
It came with Cyberlink 9.
My first production came out stretched. Seemed an easy enough problem to cure. But I never could, even though I put in the CPD9 forum this topic:
http://forum.cyberlink.com/forum/posts/list/7813.page
Footage I believe shot in 16:9.
Footage previews perfectly with 16:9 setting.
When produced it comes out stretched, except for when there is a title on screen. It looks like it's DOUBLE widescreen, as if the 16:9 setting has been applied twice somehow.
When I change the aspect to 4:3, I get the conflict message (which ensures me that it was 16:9 in the first place.)
But after production, the footage looks fine, but for bars top and bottom and the picture is still in 16:9 in a 4:3 screen.
Thankfully, I don't have this camera anymore, but was going to try to resolve this problem with this very old footage, and reproduce it so that it is correct. I just can't figure it out, and don't know what to look for.
Am attaching various screenshots and the 16:9 project.
A screenshot of the project when in 16:9, it looks fine.
A screenshot of the project when in 4:3, looks fine but with bars.
The project itself in 16:9
It's so annoying, of all my projects, this is the only one I could never fix. It's 3hrs long in actuality, so a tricky thing to manually fix eachclip! Something must have been wrong with the settings on the camera??? But what can I do to fix this now.
Weird that the preview and the production of 16:9 each look different.
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I'm going to buy the Canopus equipment.
I'm going to use the firewire, though my PC hasn't got a port, I'm getting a firewire adapter card. I'm not sure where it 'goes' but sounds like the best way to go. I want it to be right, the way it was designed.
This thread has been fantastic.
Longedge, noted regarding the quality connection on analogue side. Thanks.
Carl, Rob, Longedge, Barry, thankyou.
Yes, Rob...I love to learn all this stuff. I'm the 'archivist' in the family. Zillions of photos, are nearly all scanned now, to disc and HDrive, - Cyberlink PD is also my current new learning task, and a great way to keep nice home movies,...and next the old videos. I've previously put them on dvd, but am unhappy that I have no digital copy, and can't edit them for safekeeping or sharing. Grand plans, just have to expand the knowledge about the equipment required. So this has been great.
One day soon, I'll update you and let you know how I got on. I only bought PD11 about 3 months ago, I didn't know there was going to be a PD12 so soon, but it manages my needs just fine, very happy with it. Lots to learn yet. It's going to be fun editing the old video on it.
Thanks,
Jenny.
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oh darn. I don't think my computer has a firewire port!!!! My laptop seems to have a 4 pin port, but I can't see any on my NEW PC. 
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Fantastic information.
I feel like I can really tackle this huge project. Thankyou.
I've just looked up Canopus on google, Amazon have one that seems reasonable.
This is the ad, since there are lots of different canopus products, I wanted to check if this seems the correct one to get, or something like this? img attached.
Seems to me that my hours and hours of video that are very special to me, are worth an extra $100. (not to mention the fun I'll have editing it.) So now I just have to find the right one, at the best price. Things like this seem cheaper in the USA than here in Australia.
ROB: You're right of course, my dad always said to use the earliest generation of footage you can, and run it off the most original equipment you can to get the best play quality. So I'll use the small Hi 8 tapes in the camera.
I will test the diamond capture, as you suggested, but am feeling more and more inclined to invest in the Canopus. Your explanation is wonderful, thankyou for taking the time to explain the leads etc, THAT"S the area that I have the most problem. It's not obvious to me what goes where. It's appreciated, thankyou.
I'll do a test shortly.
CARL: I think I'll take your advice and look for a canopus. I only want to do this once.
LONGEDGE - Hilarious. Same. I transfer to blu ray (and accidentally watch it), I sort the old videos (and accidentally watch them), I file the digital copies to Ext. Hard drive, and again...find my self accidentally watching them. That's what they're for!!
It's the Capture part, that I'm having trouble with. But slowly getting it sorted.
All of you, thankyou. This is extremely helpful.
I've got to finish my current project first....only about 5000 more photos to go. Should take me another 3-4 days. Scanning them then saving it do disc, then archiving them. From about the year 1900 to 2008 It worries me having only one paper copy of precious photos.
Now I'm going off to look at Canopus.
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Hmmm....I have a Panasonic TM900.
It has an HDMI port, a usb port (small socket) and an AV Multi port...which sounds promising.
Yes, I'm a techno dummy,...as in I don't know what these things are for, but I'm pretty good at working it out. (just don't use any too-technical terms, as I won't know what they mean.)
I was able to get all my '78s records, my old audio cassettes (of me speaking as a child) etc, onto the computer through a cable/cassette player and software so I reckon I can give this a go. I've got a VCR, happy to find or buy the cords required, and I have a ONE TOUCH DIAMOND
MULTIMEDI VIDEO CAPTURE DEVICE, which I bought last year. (I've yet to open it.)
In fact, I have also dubbed the video to DVD with a video/dvd combo unit, and then transferred the dvd files to the computer. It's just that the quality is so poor on a digital tv, I was wondering if there's a more sensible, more effective, better quality way to do it.
There's been some FANTASTIC posts here.
BARRY: I was particularly interested in Barry's using the camera to convert idea.
I'm not quite sure how to do that though or if either of my two cameras would do it.
I have the old Sony Handicam, it was waaaaayyy before digital so def. does not have a digital conversion, I wouldn't think. (1994/5), but my Panasonic TM900, as I've mentioned, does have the AV Multi port. It says in the manual that it's used to watch the footage on a TV. I've never needed to do this as I like editing it first. Is this the port that would do the conversion? I have looked in my (very large manual) and can't see a conversion function, but as it is one of the higher end consumer level cameras, I thought it might. ???
I'm assuming you mean put my original tapes in the VCR, hook the vcr up to the camera (some how??), and the camera to the pc.?? - I would need software, the Diamond capture I have, has it, but perhaps that's only for the device.
ROB: I wish I had the funds to pay someone, but fortunately...or unfortunately my father was a renowned cameraman, and I have zillions of hours of footage, which is why I'd love to do it myself to edit it. Not to mention I'm sure I'd enjoy it once I find out how!  So I have the diamond video capture unit. Or my two cameras, one analog and one digital. Plus a VCR. I'm thinking the Diamond capture is going to work something like your Canopus. It is a USB device though, but rated one of the most popular and better working. I guess I should just go for it. I suppose my question was Which method will work best? for lots of tape, and best quality possible.
Just looking at my Daimond capture thing. It has an av multicable supplied, but the plugs look nothing like the little AV multi port in my camera. They're the red white yellow combo ones.
This is the bit I hate. I know too much to just let it all go (I want the best quality, I want to edit it, and I WANT my videos!) but not enough to know exactly how to do it. Research.
JAIME - Ive never heard of DV tape. My Sony was of course not digital video, but earlier than that. 1994 ish. or a b it later? I can't quite remember, it's a Sony Handicam shooting video Hi 8. It is a wonderful camera, but I haven't used it in years except to play the video tapes into the vcr to dub them. It has only the yellow and black round ports. S video is it?
anyway, I'm watching all your posts with tons of interest. If you had my equipment, what would you try? Happy to spend a little on cables etc, but not hundreds.
What a shame it won't look as nice as it did when first shot.
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That is fantastic Tony, thankyou. I completely get it...well almost completely.
What I also understand is that I was only taking the svrt suggested option, that looked like it was the quickest, but not always the best. I had rendered 3 of them in 24mbps and 2 in 16mbps.
I took notice of your comment regarding try to stick to the closest possible, and now I can see that there was TWO places where that comes into play. I didn't realise.
So I have SUCCESS. I re-rendered all the (wrong) video in 16mbps, then re created the disc...again (and this is where I didn't know there was anything to do with bitrate) using the 16mbps option.
Voila. Perfect.
Your explanation illustrated why some bitrates were 14, some 15 and some 16, and now ..while I don't need to understand how it does it, I understand why it does it. Thanks, Tony. oh, and I didn't have to 'lower the speed'....that's another thing I know nothing about. I'll have to look up what you mean.
Generally Cyberlink has been fairly self explanatory, but I find having this forum, and you guys on it, invaluable.
Thanks so much x
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wow. That's a lot to understand. So bit rate is the rate at which the information transfers.
I think I'm getting confused between the options when a) producing and b) creating disc, and also a) bit rate b) fps.
My footage is avchd 1920 x 1080 / 50i at 17mbps.
So... int the produce screen, when svrt is pressed, I should get a 16mbps option, and even if it's not the fastest on the list, that's the one I should choose?
And then, in the create disc screen, I should also try to find the 16mbps option? (It's the 24p that is confusing me. - my footage is 50i - or 25i same) which is 25 fpsec I guess? (PAL not NTSC) So I should look for AVC H.264 1920x1080/50i 16mbps. Is that right?
phew!
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Thankyou Carl,
Can you explain bit rate a bit further? I think my footage from my Pan Tm900 on the HA setting is 1920x1080/50i which is the same as 25i. I believe it's 17mpbs. That's the bit rate, right? (I'm very unfamiliar with the technical side.)
So if 17mpbs is the bit rate (actually when I left clicked on the produced file it says the bit rate is 18.79mbps), then I should choose the 24mpbs option in the Create Disc screen.
I looked for the two profiles you are talking about. I see two 50i profiles, one says no bitrate but I think it's 40? is it? and the other says 24. So I should choose the 24 which is closer to my 17?
When I produced, should I have looked for any options? I chose svrt, and the best option that it gave me that was 100% svrt at 24 mpbs (because I've produced the 5 videos individually at 24mbps before) now just joining them. But I can see it offers a 16mpbs option too. That's closer to my 17. Should I have produced in that, even though svrt is saying only 42% of the file can be rendered.
I've made a big blu ray like this previously, I didn't have a problem then. Not sure why.
I'm wondering if from project > production > create disc I am not realising something important about bit rate.
Thanks,
Jenny
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After creating a Blu Ray disc from 5 projects I had produced, my disc plays jittery when there is movement or panning.
My production movies seem fine. I preview them on High quality not HD so that I don't get any more green screen. When I create a regular dvd or blu ray with just one production it turns out fine. They play well on the tv, and well on the computer.
It's when I combine the 5 productions in the create disc page, then put it on blu ray that it all goes wrong.
The titles are fine, even the title page is fine, and the slideshows are fine. It's just the moving video that is not.
I was told that you do not need to 'produce' the video before creating a disc. However, it seems that I do have to.
I am testing this, (tomorrow as I've run out of time.) I have produced the 5 x 30 minute HD videos together as one 2.5hr video.
Then I will send that to disc to see if it runs smoothly.
I wonder what else it could be. I am choosing the 100% svrt (as it has now already been rendered once) and am kind of doing it again to join the 5. It is 24fps. Which should match with my 50i. Is that right?
I can't think of anything else it could be. As its only during the create disc phase.
Thanks for your help,
Jenny
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Hi Brady,
I also had the random green screen issue, and posted on this forum with it.
Responses from forum gurus suggested that I ensure my 'preview playback' resolution, in the edit screen was set to High, not HD, prior to production. That's the middle resolution. Even though I would rather preview my movie at it's highest quality, setting the preview to medium (the High setting) was the solution. It did not affect the resolution of the produced video, only what I could see on screen when I previewed it during the editing stage. I could also flick over to HD whenever I really wanted to, as long as I set it BACK to the middle setting before I produced.
I have not had a green screen since.
I have no idea why this would affect production. But it did.
In fact, I have just produced 2.5 hours of HD video, and have had to RE produce it as I forgot to reset my preview quality, and I couldn't be bothered watching the whole thing to check for green screens before I put it on Blu ray. better sure than sorry.
Try it, set your preview quality to the medium setting of 'high' before you produce.
Hope it works for you too.
Jenny
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This is a great big 'How to'.
Has anyone tried putting old home movies that are on video cassette tape playable on a VCR, onto computer so that you can work with it in Cyberlink?
There are multiple questions here, I know.
I have:
1. the original mini video cassettes - What are they called, Hi 8 or something.
2. The original Sony Handicam camera they were shot on.
3. a working vcr
4. the regular sized video cassettes I transferred the minis to. (lovely quality on an old non digital TV)
5. DVDs I dubbed the video cassettes to.
oh..and 6. The files that I got off the dvds and transferred to the computer (but they don't seem very good quality now that they're digital)
What I found is that the dvds play HORRIBLY on the new High def TVs, and not very nicely on computer either.
My original video is absolutely beautiful quality, with an old sony camcorder played on the old analogue tvs we used to have.
I'm just so disappointed, all my lovely baby video of my kids looks awful compared to the way it was, and having a cameraman father I'm used to things looking nice.
I wonder if I can somehow get the same quality, using some method of transfer to the computer and then using Cyberlink to adjust stuff, upgrade the video quality??, edit bits out, enhance others, but basically to get the same lovely HDef quality of video that it was before. (its 4:3 of course)
This kind of thing screws with my head.
Some kind of guide or instructions for techno dummies would work well with me.
I love doing it, I just hate researching HOW to do it.
1. how to get it onto the computer, in files that Cyberlink can work with.
2. how to use Cyberlink to enhance the quality? better than the dvds I dubbed. (not the splicing, the definition.)
3. so that I can finally make blue ray discs that will play in good quality on our big tv. (at least I know how to do that!)
Basically, Video tape to blu ray with no loss of quality. Big ask???
ANY advice or help will be appreciated, particularly from those who have tried it. Step by little-dummy-step would be good.
with thanks, Jenny.
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I'm only new myself to Cyberlink, but have you checked your project at the approximate 10% mark to see what's there that might be causing the problem? Has this project been 'produced' before made into a DVD? I found it definitely easier to produce the video, the use the new production to create the dvd. But first, just look at the project to see if perhaps there's a lot going on in the project just there. Perhaps your computer has not got the grunt to manage it. Eg a title, plus pip object, plus fade plus video and audio...maybe it's too much?
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This is a GREAT thread.
5 or 6 years ago I owned a JVC camera, (awful), and it came with Cyberlink PD9 which was waaayyy to good for the camera!
I always had a lot of trouble with the aspect.
I shot it in widescreen, but when played on the cyberlink, no matter what I did, it looked even more stretched.
I had trouble playing it on the TVs and making DVDs the aspect ratio was so tricky. Eventually I had to do it on Windows DVD maker!
I'm going to revisit those old .mod .tod videos and see if I can remake them. Lucky I kept the original files!!!
Thanks for all that info, it looks promising.
Jenny
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Hi Carl,
Thankyou so much for your reply. I took a little while to respond back, as it did take me quite some time to find what you described. I did enable hidden files, found the one you were talking about, and found all the previous saves. I have re-used the most recent one that opens. Yes, it must be corrupted. Not sure why.
Also learned from a tutorial was the placing and saving of all files in a folder on the desktop while in use. ALL files. Then it's definitely clear and not necessary to move or rename them until files have been packaged and exported after completion. Live and learn. I'm still not sure what happened, or what I did, but you saved me. As it was the first of 4, I can't remember when it last opened properly, perhaps 2 months ago.
I had made a production of that video already, but wanted the originals in a packaged exported file. So thankyou, I got almost all of it. Thankgoodness.
Once again, thankyou for your help. It is very much appreciated. Genius!!
best wishes,
Jenny
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I fear it is something stupid I did, rename or move a file, but strangely I can see all the files that the dreaded 'can't find' error message gives me.
My Cyberlink PD 11 is shutting down by itself. I am trying to open a project, the first of 4 in a series that I have completed, and rendered and have the finished copy of. I am now doing as suggested, and exporting all the packaged media so that if I wanted to remake I could. I only learnt this after completing 3 projects, but have successfully packed the last 3 of the 4 projects I made. The first one, however, won't open.
I am getting the 'can't find error message' for a bunch of files that came off a different camera. I can see them in the folder. I have renamed, moved and shuffled...just incase I did that earlier and can't remember.
When I click 'browse', and find the file, it only let's me find one of the 12 or so that it can't find, ...then loads them, and then updates the timeline to 79%, then shuts down. I get the error message that Cyberlink has stopped working,...etc.
This is odd. Any suggestions? I feel I have all the files I need, and think it's a bit weird that it stops on the timeline, not on the loading. Thanks.
Jenny
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Thankyou so much, you're so helpful...I'll look into it.
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