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SVRT not working in PD13 with XAVC S clips from Sony FDR-33 4K camcorder
Julien Pierre [Avatar]
Contributor Joined: Apr 14, 2011 01:34 Messages: 476 Offline
[Post New] Sep 16, 2015 07:28
I am attaching 5 clips from the above camcorder.

With PD12, everything works fine - PD12 "intelligent SVRT" is able to automatically create a custom profile for each of these clips, which I can then use to render successfully. See the content of the 5 corresponding profiles below.

The PD13 "intelligent SVRT" on the other hand cannot create a custom profile for any of these. Furthermore, if I use the profiles from PD12 in PD13, they don't work. I just copied over the entire Profile.ini to try.

FYI, that I have also gotten all 5 of these profiles to work in PD10 and PD11 - though I have to select each of them manually, and the "intelligent SVRT" in PD10/PD11 fails to automatically a new profile, or to select the correct profile, if it is already present in Profile.ini .

So, at this point, only PD13 is a real issue. I can't try PD14 since SVRT doesn't seem to work at all in the trial version.


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MPEG-4 AVC
Sony FDR-AX33 4K XAVC-S

Sony FDR-AX33 4K XAVC-S 60 Mbps
<output>
11924
11925
2
11
<video class="" width="300" height="150">8
<Audio Format Class>10
<Stream Flag>3
<Field Order>0
<Attribute>40083
<Video BitRate>57483726
<Min BitRate>0
<Max BitRate>62483726
<Video Quality>0
<Video Width>3840
<Video Height>2160
<Frame Rate>29.969999
<Profile Level>65380
<Pattern>IBPBPBPBPBPBPBPBPBPBPBPBPBPBP
<Pre Processing>0
<Resize>1
<Flip Video>0
<Speed Quality Indicator>8
<Interlacing>0
<Encoder Mode>0
<App Type>2
<Dynamic GOP>0
<Deblock>1
<EntryMode>1
<Encoder Type>32
<Audio Layer>2
<Audio Mode>2
<Audio BitRate>128000
<Audio Channels>2
<Audio SamplesPerSec>64
<Audio BitsPerSample>1
<Misc>0
<SamplesPerFrame>1152
&&

&
<Class>MPEG-4 AVC
<Name>Sony FDR-AX33 60p XAVC S
<Description>
Sony FDR-AX33 60p XAVC S
<Output FileName>
<DescID>11924
<NameID>11925
<Group>2
<File Format Class>11
<Video Format Class>8
<Audio Format Class>10
<Stream Flag>3
<Field Order>0
<Attribute>40083
<Video BitRate>53030575
<Min BitRate>0
<Max BitRate>58030575
<Video Quality>0
<Video Width>1920
<Video Height>1080
<Frame Rate>59.939999
<Profile Level>65380
<Pattern>IBPBPBPBPBPBPBPBPBPBPBPBPBPBP
<Pre Processing>0
<Resize>1
<Flip Video>0
<Speed Quality Indicator>8
<Interlacing>0
<Encoder Mode>0
<App Type>2
<Dynamic GOP>0
<Deblock>1
<EntryMode>1
<Encoder Type>32
<Audio Layer>2
<Audio Mode>2
<Audio BitRate>128000
<Audio Channels>2
<Audio SamplesPerSec>64
<Audio BitsPerSample>1
<Misc>0
<SamplesPerFrame>1152
&&

&
<Class>MPEG-4 AVC
<Name>Sony FDR-AX33 30p XAVC S
<Description>
Sony FDR-AX33 30p XAVC S
<Output FileName>
<DescID>11924
<NameID>11925
<Group>2
<File Format Class>11
<Video Format Class>8
<Audio Format Class>10
<Stream Flag>3
<Field Order>0
<Attribute>40083
<Video BitRate>49146555
<Min BitRate>0
<Max BitRate>54146555
<Video Quality>0
<Video Width>1920
<Video Height>1080
<Frame Rate>29.969999
<Profile Level>65380
<Pattern>IBPBPBPBPBPBPBPBPBPBPBPBPBPBP
<Pre Processing>0
<Resize>1
<Flip Video>0
<Speed Quality Indicator>8
<Interlacing>0
<Encoder Mode>0
<App Type>2
<Dynamic GOP>0
<Deblock>1
<EntryMode>1
<Encoder Type>32
<Audio Layer>2
<Audio Mode>2
<Audio BitRate>128000
<Audio Channels>2
<Audio SamplesPerSec>64
<Audio BitsPerSample>1
<Misc>0
<SamplesPerFrame>1152
&&

&
<Class>MPEG-4 AVC
<Name>Sony FDR-AX33 24p XAVC S
<Description>
Sony FDR-AX33 24p XAVC S
<Output FileName>
<DescID>11924
<NameID>11925
<Group>2
<File Format Class>11
<Video Format Class>8
<Audio Format Class>10
<Stream Flag>3
<Field Order>0
<Attribute>40083
<Video BitRate>63737792
<Min BitRate>0
<Max BitRate>68737792
<Video Quality>0
<Video Width>3840
<Video Height>2160
<Frame Rate>23.976000
<Profile Level>65380
<Pattern>IBPBPBPBPBPBPBPBPBPBPBPBPBPBP
<Pre Processing>0
<Resize>1
<Flip Video>0
<Speed Quality Indicator>8
<Interlacing>0
<Encoder Mode>0
<App Type>2
<Dynamic GOP>0
<Deblock>1
<EntryMode>1
<Encoder Type>32
<Audio Layer>2
<Audio Mode>2
<Audio BitRate>128000
<Audio Channels>2
<Audio SamplesPerSec>64
<Audio BitsPerSample>1
<Misc>0
<SamplesPerFrame>1152
&&

&
<Class>MPEG-4 AVC
<Name>Sony FDR-AX33 XAVC S HD 1080-24p
<Description>
Sony FDR-AX33 XAVC S HD 1080-24p
<Output FileName>
<DescID>11924
<NameID>11925
<Group>2
<File Format Class>11
<Video Format Class>8
<Audio Format Class>10
<Stream Flag>3
<Field Order>0
<Attribute>40083
<Video BitRate>49722075
<Min BitRate>0
<Max BitRate>54722075
<Video Quality>0
<Video Width>1920
<Video Height>1080
<Frame Rate>23.976000
<Profile Level>65380
<Pattern>IBPBPBPBPBPBPBPBPBPBPBPBPBPBP
<Pre Processing>0
<Resize>1
<Flip Video>0
<Speed Quality Indicator>8
<Interlacing>0
<Encoder Mode>0
<App Type>2
<Dynamic GOP>0
<Deblock>1
<EntryMode>1
<Encoder Type>32
<Audio Layer>2
<Audio Mode>2
<Audio BitRate>128000
<Audio Channels>2
<Audio SamplesPerSec>64
<Audio BitsPerSample>1
<Misc>0
<SamplesPerFrame>1152
&&</video></output>

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at Sep 16. 2015 20:25

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Julien Pierre [Avatar]
Contributor Joined: Apr 14, 2011 01:34 Messages: 476 Offline
[Post New] Sep 16, 2015 08:03
Clips 1- 3 .
 Filename
Sony FDR-AX33 camcorder XAVC S 4K 60 Mbps 3840x2160 30p.MP4
[Disk]
 Description
 Filesize
63190 Kbytes
 Downloaded:
225 time(s)
 Filename
Sony FDR-AX33 camcorder XAVC S 4K 60 Mbps 3840x2160 24p.MP4
[Disk]
 Description
 Filesize
58593 Kbytes
 Downloaded:
218 time(s)
 Filename
Sony FDR-AX33 camcorder XAVC S HD 50 Mbps 1920x1080 24p.MP4
[Disk]
 Description
 Filesize
60995 Kbytes
 Downloaded:
217 time(s)
MSI X99A Raider
Intel i7-5820k @ 4.4 GHz
32GB DDR4 RAM
Gigabyte nVidia GTX 960 4GB
480 GB Patriot Ignite SSD (boot)
2 x 480 GB Sandisk Ultra II SSD (striped)
6 x 1 TB Samsung 860 SSD (striped)

2 x LG 32UD59-B 32" 4K
Asus PB238 23" HD (portrait)
Julien Pierre [Avatar]
Contributor Joined: Apr 14, 2011 01:34 Messages: 476 Offline
[Post New] Sep 16, 2015 08:17
Clips 4-5 .
 Filename
Sony FDR-AX33 camcorder XAVC S HD 50 Mbps 1920x1080 30p.MP4
[Disk]
 Description
 Filesize
101684 Kbytes
 Downloaded:
200 time(s)
 Filename
Sony FDR-AX33 camcorder XAVC S HD 50 Mbps 1920x1080 60p.MP4
[Disk]
 Description
 Filesize
52178 Kbytes
 Downloaded:
223 time(s)
MSI X99A Raider
Intel i7-5820k @ 4.4 GHz
32GB DDR4 RAM
Gigabyte nVidia GTX 960 4GB
480 GB Patriot Ignite SSD (boot)
2 x 480 GB Sandisk Ultra II SSD (striped)
6 x 1 TB Samsung 860 SSD (striped)

2 x LG 32UD59-B 32" 4K
Asus PB238 23" HD (portrait)
JL_JL [Avatar]
Senior Contributor Location: Arizona, USA Joined: Oct 01, 2006 20:01 Messages: 6091 Offline
[Post New] Sep 16, 2015 10:03
Julien Pierre, for me Intelligent SVRT in PD14 was able to define a custom profile for each of the 5 clips and each clip when produced did in fact utilize SVRT. Resulting resolution, frame rate, frame type, and bitrate of produced clips very similar to each input clip.

Unknown if picture quality will hold up for a long duration clip. I saw nothing unusual in these produced clips.

Jeff

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at Sep 16. 2015 11:04

Julien Pierre [Avatar]
Contributor Joined: Apr 14, 2011 01:34 Messages: 476 Offline
[Post New] Sep 16, 2015 20:29
Quote: Julien Pierre, for me Intelligent SVRT in PD14 was able to define a custom profile for each of the 5 clips and each clip when produced did in fact utilize SVRT. Resulting resolution, frame rate, frame type, and bitrate of produced clips very similar to each input clip.

Unknown if picture quality will hold up for a long duration clip. I saw nothing unusual in these produced clips.

Jeff




Thank you very much for trying this, Jeff !

That is excellent news. If I decide to keep my FDR-AX33, then I will definitely upgrade to PD14.

I'm still evaluating this 4K camera. So far, I haven't really seen any noticeable improvement in picture quality vs my 7-year old Canon HG21 HD camcorder, when viewing the videos on my 2560x1600 monitor. Perhaps I need a 4K monitor to truly see it. I still need to play with the camera some more. I'm shooting only indoors and with a tripod - I may need the FDR-AX100, but the price is much higher, and there is still no 4k/60p on that model even at that price.

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at Sep 16. 2015 20:31

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Intel i7-5820k @ 4.4 GHz
32GB DDR4 RAM
Gigabyte nVidia GTX 960 4GB
480 GB Patriot Ignite SSD (boot)
2 x 480 GB Sandisk Ultra II SSD (striped)
6 x 1 TB Samsung 860 SSD (striped)

2 x LG 32UD59-B 32" 4K
Asus PB238 23" HD (portrait)
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