Is there a way to slow down the production process?

Jhdgsk

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Oct 30, 2013 22:35

When producing videos PD sometimes heats my computer in excess of 200 degrees. At around 215 my computer turns off. I was told this heat governor was a safety mechanism. I have to monitor the temperature with SpeenFan and pause the render process whenever it gets over 200 degrees. I let it cool back down then I resume the production. Depending on the project, I may have to pause every 5 seconds or so. Obviously, this is a huge pain. So I was wondering if there was a way to slow down the production process in hopes that it would create less heat.

Other things I have tried include using a cooling pad (always), resting my laptop directly on top of a powerful fan, removing the shell of the laptop to allow better airflow, and I even stuck it in the freezer. All of those methods work to a minor degree, but none are a foolproof way to produce my videos without having the computer shut itself down.

Any suggestions would be most appreciated :

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James Dotson

Senior Contributor Location: Tennessee Joined: Aug 24, 2009 20:40 Messages: 3066 Offline

Oct 30, 2013 23:00

Have you tried to blow the dust out of the cooling vents? That system should not have a cooling problem. What type of video are you using and what are you producing to? Are you adding any effects? __________________________________
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BarryTheCrab

Senior Contributor Location: USA Joined: Nov 06, 2008 22:18 Messages: 6240 Offline

Oct 30, 2013 23:10

What is the model MSI? Is there a consumer alert on your model? Is there an MSI forum, maybe other owners have had heat issues.
Jaime is correct is asking you to blow out any vents.
My DV7 (HP) has a reputation of running hot, but never gets over 200F, even when encoding/rendering. HP Envy Phoenix/4thGen i7-4770(4@3.4GHz~turbo>3.9)
Nvidia GTX 960(4GB)/16GB DDR3/
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Jhdgsk

Newbie Joined: Feb 22, 2013 12:10 Messages: 17 Offline

Oct 30, 2013 23:50

Jamie - I did that about two months ago, and I just did it again for good measure. They were pretty clean. As far as video types, I have only used standard definition. Most of my projects are AVI, but I have also tested out MPG, MP4, MOV, FLV, MKV and image files. As a matter of fact, I just did a test where I used a single 1mb JPG and added a 24mb MOV file into part of it (to make it look like video playing on the TV in the picture. The total duration was 35 seconds. It brought my computer's temp to just under 200 by the end of the rendering effort. No effects were applied, and I tried producing into every available format. My target was the full HD range 1920X1080.

Barry - The MSI is a CX61. I had it custom made by XOTIC PC. I spoke with them about the heat problem and they said I would need to send my laptop back in order for them to take a look. Estimated minimum time without my computer is 1 month. I have a whole mess of projects that I need to finish up and pump out, so that isn't an option until after I finish. But this heat issue is delaying me. It's a real catch-22. That's why I was thinking about possibly slowing down the rendering/production process in hopes of reducing heat output.

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BarryTheCrab

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Oct 31, 2013 06:11

Maybe you can break your larger projects into smaller pieces, then slap them together, and using SVRT so there is no re-encoding, your machine may not heat up. HP Envy Phoenix/4thGen i7-4770(4@3.4GHz~turbo>3.9)
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Longedge

Senior Contributor Joined: Apr 28, 2011 15:38 Messages: 1504 Offline

Oct 31, 2013 09:11

My last laptop (HP Pavilion 7000series i7) used to overheat when rendering to the point where it would switch itself off. I resolved the problem by limiting CPU usage to 90% in the advanced power options IIRC.

p.s. I agree with the need to ensure that all vents are clear. I have also always used a laptop rest with built in fans driven through a USB connection which I power by an external power supply.

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Jhdgsk

Newbie Joined: Feb 22, 2013 12:10 Messages: 17 Offline

Oct 31, 2013 10:38

Barry - That is the method I have adopted. My projects are broken down to 1-6 minutes each. I did not know about SVRT though. I am eager to give it a whirl. Thanks!

Longedge - In the advanced options is it the "maximum processor state" that you adjusted? (screenshot: http://puu.sh/54JRR.png) I lowered that to 70% and am now going to run some tests. Thanks for the tip!

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Longedge

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Oct 31, 2013 10:58

Quote: Longedge - In the advanced options is it the "maximum processor state" that you adjusted? (screenshot: http://puu.sh/54JRR.png) I lowered that to 70% and am now going to run some tests. Thanks for the tip!

Yes - that's it.

I think I put mine down to 90% and that did the trick, 70% sounds a bit too low to me.

Jhdgsk

Newbie Joined: Feb 22, 2013 12:10 Messages: 17 Offline

Oct 31, 2013 11:45

It worked! Thanks so much. Now I can incrementally raise the power level until I find the sweet spot.

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Longedge

Senior Contributor Joined: Apr 28, 2011 15:38 Messages: 1504 Offline

Oct 31, 2013 11:50

Quote: It worked! Thanks so much. Now I can incrementally raise the power level until I find the sweet spot.

Question: What does the up arrow next to the quote button on these posts do?

Good job!

The arrow takes me to the top of the thread i.e. the first post in the thread. I imagine that is what it's supposed to do

RobAC

Contributor Joined: Mar 09, 2013 18:20 Messages: 406 Offline

Oct 31, 2013 12:38

Good work around.

Xotic definitely needs to have a look at their build after you are done your projects.
Do you hear your fan(s) going into jet scream mode when they try to cool down your system?

No matter what you throw at your laptop it should not be going into thermal shut down like that. I suspect a crappy fan, thermal paste job or something else hardware related like a messed up heat sink / hardware controller that is causing this.

So send this back to them and give em hell.

Rob
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Jhdgsk

Newbie Joined: Feb 22, 2013 12:10 Messages: 17 Offline

Oct 31, 2013 16:43

Rob - Yes my fan blows quite loudly when the computer gets very hot. Not in an annoying type of manner, but more like a constant confirmation that it is working diligently. So far the power management trick is working quite well. Beforehand it was quite dicey to produce anything at the lowest of HD resolutions with low double-digit mbps. However, I just produced a 4K 50 mbps video WHILE using 2 browsers with about 20 tabs open and the temps never broke 160 degrees. If things change, I will definitely send my laptop back for review. But it may just be that my cooling system just might not be advanced enough to balance out my processors at full usage.

Longedge - It seems like 90% maximum power is my sweet spot too. I really can't thank you enough. This has been my biggest obstacle since I got the computer. I feel like a huge weight has been lifted off of me. Cheers mate!

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Longedge

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Oct 31, 2013 17:23

Quote: I feel like a huge weight has been lifted off of me. Cheers mate!

You're welcome.

I now have a Sony Vaio and it's very different to the HP I used to have. It's on most days for 10 to 12 hours and it never even breaks into a sweat in fact you could say it's COOL