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Newbie Q on PD9 Features (which ones are actually useful)
jmone
Senior Contributor Location: Australia Joined: Nov 26, 2010 00:05 Messages: 706 Offline
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Hi, Sorry for the Newbie Q. I've been editing home video for the last 10 years (DV, HDV) with Ulead/Corel Video Studio but have moved over to PD9 as it has better 1080/50p 264 support and after a day of playing with PD9 have some questions on what features are useful and what are....well "fluff" (and should be avoided), in particular:

- Magic "Stuff": Does anone actually use these and if so which ones and to what effect (Magic Movie Wizard, Magic Fix, Magic Cut, Magic Style, Magic Music)?
- Effects Wall: Lots here and many are "dramatic" and while they could be good for specific effects occasionally are any frequently used?
- Transition Tool: I was happy with a simple Fade (if any), any other popular everyday transitions to consider?

I'm sure there is more! Thanks for helping
Nathan

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Robert2 S
Senior Contributor Location: Australia Joined: Apr 22, 2009 05:57 Messages: 1461 Offline
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Hi Nathan,

You hit the nail on the head with serious video editors. Magic stuff, particle effects and numerous fades are for the newbies.

You will rarely see these fancy effects in good quality videos, most of them are fluff. I will say though I do like X-ray and emboss when used sparingly :

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jerrys
Senior Contributor Location: New Britain, CT, USA (between New York and Boston) Joined: Feb 10, 2010 21:36 Messages: 1038 Offline
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Quote: I was happy with a simple Fade (if any), any other popular everyday transitions to consider?

I'm a rank amateur, but I didn't find any of the "magic" stuff worth looking at.

I have used both effects and different transitions, but be aware that all of my work is "fun" stuff. I'm not doing BBC documentaries, or a Merchant Ivory production, so I have no need of professionalism.

When I have a lot of choppy little clips, I'll often use "slide left" as a transition because a fade between two disparate scenes wouldn't look as good. (Think of a shot of the Mona Lisa, jumping to a shot of the interior of a bus.) In such cases I need a clean break, but I still want some kind of transition. If I do want a simple cross-fade, I might put a tiny bit of black color board between the two clips.

I tend to think of transitions the way I would think of punctuation. I've used the "wormhole" and "mirror" effects almost like parentheses around a clip.

I will also use "grand opening" when a clip ends with a passage through a doorway or gate. For my last effort, I added a "creaky door" sound to go with entering through a cemetery gate.

I do try to maintain some consistency, so it doesn't look as though I were grabbing them at random. Two or three different types, plus a plain fade, is usually the limit.

I've also made good use of "no transition", but it seems to look different in PD9. That might be the "overlay" vs. "cross" issue.

As for effects, I've used those too -- but sparingly. For example, I've applied a flaring effect to text against a black background. (The title room lets you apply effects to the beginning and end of text object, so I guess that's more like a transition than an effect.)

For a surprise birthday party I used an effect that put starbursts around the guest of honor's head when she walked in.

For a tour of a crematorium, I used one of the fire effects (toned way down) near the floor; and I added some smoke coming out of an oven. This is all for comic effect, obviously.

As I said, I use them very sparingly.
Jerry Schwartz
NicolasNY
Senior Contributor Location: Caracas Joined: Sep 28, 2008 17:49 Messages: 805 Offline
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Hi Nathan,

Welcome to the forum and we all have being newbie no matter the years we have use other video editors. Don’t worry about that. Some day you will become a CL forum Senior Contributor has I wish to be some day in the future. LOL

Magic "Stuff": It’s an Apple style simple way to edit your movies, or like Robert2 said.. is for the newbie’s, but don’t identify yourself with that (I never have use it)
Effects wall: like Ulead effects but better
Transition Tool: Same like Ulead and yes you have a FADE including a lot of much more effects to consider.

I have use Ulead, Sony Vegas, Pinnacle and Cyberlink PD have caught my attention, first of all because its have being the more stable video editor I have use. The most friendly and the most important thing (and above all), because people in here is more friendly and have in this forum the best help we can get.
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"Take what you can use and let the rest go by." Ken Kesey

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BarryTheCrab
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Quote: With less words, more results.


Less words, Adrian? Hell hath frozen over like an ex-wife.


As for Magic features, Magic Music, YES!
Other Magic features...I have used them to get the effects and video-clip flourishes they provide. Then I delete everything but those items, and proceed to re-cut the video.
I could also go into the program files to "grab" these items on their own, but, ehhhhhh, whatever.

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