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GeorgeSaridakis123456789

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Hi Folks,

I must have swallowed some stupid pills this morning but I cannot find where to turn off continuous rendering.

I am in the edit tab, and I get a small gray box under the viewer which says it is rendering - this bogs the system down so much that cannot successfully edit my clips.

I thought I could change this via a simple preference dialog selection, but have been unable to find out how to do so.

I am running 9.0.0.2930 VDE110516-02

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks
George

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GeorgeSaridakis123456789 wrote:Hi Folks,

I must have swallowed some stupid pills this morning but I cannot find where to turn off continuous rendering.

I am in the edit tab, and I get a small gray box under the viewer which says it is rendering - this bogs the system down so much that cannot successfully edit my clips.

I thought I could change this via a simple preference dialog selection, but have been unable to find out how to do so.

I am running 9.0.0.2930 VDE110516-02

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks
George


Do you have an Nvidia Video Card?

It is caused by the later versions of the Nvidia video Drivers.

If you install the Nvidia 301.42 Version, you will fix the problem.


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GeorgeSaridakis123456789

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Hi Carl,

Thank you so much. I recently updated my Nvidia card to 306.23, and rolling it back to 301.42 eliminated this issue.

I appreciate your timely response to my call for help.

George

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Hi there...
I have the same problem and 301.42 seems to be non-compatible with my system!! I run Win7 64bit, i7 processor / 8GB, NVIDIA GT540M card, SSD 250GB, on my VAIO laptop.
I just found out that my version is 306.23. No instalation of any driver is possible (not even the existing one..!!). I guess this is an INVIDIA issue, not CyberLink..
I'll try to find a way to switch to 301.42 if possible..
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Thanalas

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unfortunately, my card can not be downgraded to an older driver version... I think I am stuck with a new card and driver that are a bad combination with PD9 !!! Should I go for PD10? Would it be any different?
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Found my way around, installed 301.42 and everything is OK

Thanks a lot.

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I'm guessing this is also my issue with PD10, I never had a rendering issue until now, so if its the drivers update then grrreat. Anyone explain how to undue drivers update?
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DuBDzO wrote: I'm guessing this is also my issue with PD10, I never had a rendering issue until now, so if its the drivers update then grrreat. Anyone explain how to undue drivers update?

First download a older driver if you don't have one already.

Uninstall the current driver.

Install the older driver.

Most driver install engines also have a uninstall function. You probably need to do Custom instead of Express install to get the uninstall option.


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Carl's instructions are correct. I had to first download 301.42 driver (older driver that is good for PD9 and PD10), then UNINSTALL current driver and THEN install 301.42. If you don't uninstall first, you will get a message for incompatible driver.
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Hey thanks for the information. I was able to just install the 301.42 driver and didn't need to uninstall the 306 driver, PD10 works great now. Now ill be standing by for when there's a PD that has multi cam function :•) untill then PD 10 is my best friend
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I had been using PD8 Deluxe without any rendering or other serious problems, though I wasn't sure whether my nVidia graphics card was being used. Tonight, I downloaded the trial of PD11 Ultra. As soon as I dragged an avi file into the timeline, continuous rendering attempts began. Rendering would reach 54 percent according to the onscreen indication, then return to zero, reach 54% again, and repeat this, continuously - preventing me from doing anything with the program.

I had just had the Gigabyte nVidia Geforce GTX 650 graphics card installed with driver version 306.23. Remembering this forum here, I fully uninstalled the nVidia drivers (Using Advanced Uninstall Pro - a good, thorough program). When I attempted to install version 301.42 drivers per the recommendation in this forum, the installer performed an automatic System Check as part of the process. The following pop-up appeared: "NVidia installer cannot continue. This graphics driver could not find compatible graphics hardware." I had no choice but to reinstall the version 306.23 drivers.

So, the PD11 Ultra trial program is completely unusable, as I don't know how to activate my onboard Intel graphics, and in any case don't want to use them in lieu of the new graphics card that causes no problems with Adobe Premiere Elements. At the moment, when the 306.23 drivers are uninstalled, the display looks like very old fashioned Safe Mode graphics.

The other problem I found when dragging an avi file into the timeline was a pop-up indicating that the file with PAL 25fps attributes was incompatible with my PD11 setting "PAL 25fps". (Can't see any difference myself!) Not only that, the sound which could be heard in preview from the PD11 library was muted in the timeline despite the tick showing that it was enabled. I can't make any sense of the first false alert or of the contra-indication I have described. Please remember that I had none of these problems in PD8 Deluxe, and have none of them in Premiere Elements 10, which is not adversely affected by the GTX 650 card or its 306.23 drivers.

I would really love to buy PD11 Ultra if it were usable. The interface is beautiful. The editing features look wonderful, it has Blu Ray, AVCHD, H.264 support and much more! I would love to use the hardware acceleration. But unless Cyberlink or people in this forum can help me overcome these fundamental problems (and I am a reasonably experienced editor) I have no choice but to uninstall the PD11 trial and reinstall PD8 Deluxe.

My computer specs are Intel Core i7 3770k pcu, 16Gb 1600 mHz RAM, OCZ Agility 3 SSD, 1 Tb 7200rpm SATA 3 Seagate data drive, Gigabyte H77 D3H MVP motherboard, nVidia Geforce GTX 650 graphcs, Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit.

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Link to more information by the moderator.

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Rolling the drivers back to 301.42 is not a viable option for me, I need 306.23 to fix performance issues in other applications and games. I really hope we can see a fix soon from whichever party

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Zaite wrote:Rolling the drivers back to 301.42 is not a viable option for me, I need 306.23 to fix performance issues in other applications and games. I really hope we can see a fix soon from whichever party

I have read that if your turn off OpenCL the Rendering will stop.


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Obviously both new drivers and OpenCL, are ment to improve card functions. Could we take it up to "CyberLink People" and have a "patch" that could make this drawback dissapear?
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sheltiephil wrote:I had been using PD8 Deluxe without any rendering or other serious problems, though I wasn't sure whether my nVidia graphics card was being used. Tonight, I downloaded the trial of PD11 Ultra. As soon as I dragged an avi file into the timeline, continuous rendering attempts began. Rendering would reach 54 percent according to the onscreen indication, then return to zero, reach 54% again, and repeat this, continuously - preventing me from doing anything with the program.

I had just had the Gigabyte nVidia Geforce GTX 650 graphics card installed with driver version 306.23. Remembering this forum here, I fully uninstalled the nVidia drivers (Using Advanced Uninstall Pro - a good, thorough program). When I attempted to install version 301.42 drivers per the recommendation in this forum, the installer performed an automatic System Check as part of the process. The following pop-up appeared: "NVidia installer cannot continue. This graphics driver could not find compatible graphics hardware." I had no choice but to reinstall the version 306.23 drivers.

So, the PD11 Ultra trial program is completely unusable, as I don't know how to activate my onboard Intel graphics, and in any case don't want to use them in lieu of the new graphics card that causes no problems with Adobe Premiere Elements. At the moment, when the 306.23 drivers are uninstalled, the display looks like very old fashioned Safe Mode graphics.

The other problem I found when dragging an avi file into the timeline was a pop-up indicating that the file with PAL 25fps attributes was incompatible with my PD11 setting "PAL 25fps". (Can't see any difference myself!) Not only that, the sound which could be heard in preview from the PD11 library was muted in the timeline despite the tick showing that it was enabled. I can't make any sense of the first false alert or of the contra-indication I have described. Please remember that I had none of these problems in PD8 Deluxe, and have none of them in Premiere Elements 10, which is not adversely affected by the GTX 650 card or its 306.23 drivers.

I would really love to buy PD11 Ultra if it were usable. The interface is beautiful. The editing features look wonderful, it has Blu Ray, AVCHD, H.264 support and much more! I would love to use the hardware acceleration. But unless Cyberlink or people in this forum can help me overcome these fundamental problems (and I am a reasonably experienced editor) I have no choice but to uninstall the PD11 trial and reinstall PD8 Deluxe.

My computer specs are Intel Core i7 3770k pcu, 16Gb 1600 mHz RAM, OCZ Agility 3 SSD, 1 Tb 7200rpm SATA 3 Seagate data drive, Gigabyte H77 D3H MVP motherboard, nVidia Geforce GTX 650 graphcs, Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit.


In my quest for the older driver 301.42, I found more than a few 301.42 drivers!!! Only one was good for my laptop (it was stated for specyfic models, GPUs, CPUs). That one I installed before uninstalling 306.23. After 301.42 was installed, I removed 306.23 and restarted my machine. It seems a bit tricky, but this worked for me.
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I agree with Thanalas, can we please have a patch from Cyberlink to fix this problem. It's almost been a month now and no solution other than downgrading the drivers (not a solution imo).

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Did anyone of you try: 306.97 ? The one that came out today.

Is the problem not related to Cuda?

"NVIDIA CUDA
Includes support for applications built using CUDA 5 Preview or earlier version of the CUDA Toolkit."

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306.97 fixes some other problems I was having but not PowerDirector.
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Hi George, Carl and everyone else,

I have received a heartening reply regarding the rendering problem from Dafydd in the PowerDirector 11 forum: "Patch from CyberLink, certainly being worked on and will be released asap. - Forum Moderator"
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Workaround

Hi Herp, as explained in the PowerDirector 11 forum, I tried out the new nVidia driver, Version 306.97 in my PD11 Ultra trial, but the rendering problem continued. I followed the workaround suggested in that forum and disabled CUDA for PD11 in the nVidia control panel. The workaround enables me to use PD11 without any rendering problems, but without CUDA hardware acceleration. You right-click the desktop for the nVidia Control Panel, click on Manage 3D Settings, click the Program Settings tab, Click Add, browse for the set-up file for your version of PowerDirector under Programs, click that set-up file, and you see it appear at the top of page. Then you look down the page for CUDA, and click the arrow, then click the circle next to the UNTICKED box. This disables CUDA. Presto, PowerDirector works again without continuous rendering (though without CUDA acceleration). It sounds like we won't need the workaround for long, and will soon be able to use our late model nVidia graphics cards with PD9, 10 and 11. (The nVidia installer won't let you use the older driver Version 301.42 with those latest cards.) Anyway, patch coming - Phil
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Hi everyone, if you are wondering why I was sharing that workaround that applied with PD11, I think it applies with PD9 and 10 as well. You will need it to use PD9 or 10 if you have installed the newest nVidia graphics cards because the nVidia installer won't let you install the older driver Version 301.42 with those very recent cards such as the GTX 650. You will still have continuous rendering with the 306.23 and latest 306.97 drivers. However, disabling CUDA will be a workaround and we have been assured that the patch is coming.
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I hope that patch will not be for PD11 only, since with the workaround, we will lose some speed and "goodies" of the card.
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Hi,
I was directed to this post by Carl as I posted the same problem in the version 9 section, which is the one I have. We recently updated our nVidia card and it was a coincidence that I had looked at a tutorial about SVRT, rendering as you go around the same time. It looked a good idea and I switched it on. As soon as I put my new footage in the timeline it started. Big mistake. Apart from its painful slowness, what it did was unwatchable, equally, it ws rendering before I had even edited out footage I didnt want.

I unticked the boxes in the preferences section relating to SVRT and enable Cuda to no avail.

Carl suggested rolling back the graphic card update, but hubby was not happy with that, understandably, the workaround sounded the next best thing.

However, I followed the instructions but the Programme did not appear in the options to choose, so I clicked on Add and another box came up with a long list of things, mostly one to three letters. I cannot work out which would be the Power Director one.

SO my question is, please can you tell me which one it could be.

Also, has anyone any clue when the patch will be available and how we will know it is available?

Many thanks
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New patch allows CUDA hardware acceleration in PD11 using latest nVidia card, Geforce GTX 650 with new 306.97 drivers. I hope the issue has been equally resolved in PD9 and 10 - Phil
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