For web site. it used to be flash (flv) which is now becoming obsolete. HTML5 is the next new thing. One excellent tool for on line tutorials and training has just dropped flash and now uses mp4 at 720.

I thought that you wanted best quality? If so, then high definition mp4 files are the best overall compromise. Those 480 videos just are not good enough to show detail. Do at least 720. If it is a company web site, why worry about size unless you are selling into a market where your potential customers have nothing but low speed internet.

Perhaps I'm missing the point? Do you want quality or small video file size. They usually are not compatible. High speed/high quality are very subjective; you cannot have both. In my opinion, the 480 and the 3000 bit rate are small and low.

IS the company you work for a small one with limited potential buyers? .
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If I produce a video in the default settings for MPEG-4, my video will be about 110MB. Isn't that a big file? How big are typical files for one-minute, good quality YouTube videos?

And yes, I am somewhat concerned about file size for the average consumer. Our personal household actually has a satellite connection, which as you know has a limited daily download allowance. Consumers like us can't view a lot of big video files.

So do you have a suggestion for exactly what settings I should use when I go to produce my videos in PD10? I get to that screen and I'm confused and clueless as to how I should make the settings. I know I can't have high speed/ high quality, but how about a compromise level for good speed, good quality?

Thanks for your help.

stevek has a point. Do you want quality or quantity? What is your customer base?

Yes there are a lot of people that can stream HD but like me there are a lot of people that cannot. I can only do 480p video on youtube most of the time or 360p as I don't want to waste all my time buffering. I have it set to not go higher than 480. Not everyone has fast internet service yet. __________________________________________
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Have you tried the Windows Media Video 9 HD standard, it is 720P and makes the smallest HD video files.

I use Windows Media Video 9 HD standard and Windows Media Video 9 FULL HD (1920x1080) profiles for uploading to Youtube.

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I upload gaming videos and capture them in Fraps which they produce 269Mb bitrate raw videos.

I use PD10 to do my fade or transition cuts etc,once I finish I produce the video as highest bitrate to get flawless quality as possible.

In my case I use videos 1920x1080 @ 30fps using the M2ts codec using a use edit hack profile that lets me produce 190Mb bitrate using the guide from this link from
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Once I produce my loosely video from PD I use a third party software to do my final encode to upload to youtube,in my case I use Vidcoder.

For a video at 1920x1080 @ 30fps I use only 8 or 9mb bitrate and the quality is splendid while other that don't use a third party software will have to produce from PD
around 50Mb bit rate to get the same quality with vidcoder on Youtube.

I'm not dissing PD,I love PD but the ratio of bitrate v/s quality is lacking this is why I use vidcoder to save space while retaining best quality with low bitrate.

I have made a visual guide in Jpeg to use vidcoder if you want to try it or anyone else.

So my suggestion if you want,is produce highest bitrate at your desire resolution(704x480) in PD and then use vidcoder to do your final encode to upload to youtube and your company website.

EDIT:
I meant to clarify about the 190mbps that I use.

Depend whats your raw videos Mbps use it near that same or lower abit,the only reason I use 190mbps cause the raw video has a 269Mbps.

So for example if your camera spits out raw videos say 50Mbps,make a custom profile around 40 or 30mbps to save space while still maintaining the quality of the raw video with out artifacts or blocky videos effects.

Then proceed with vidcoder to make the 6mbps.

I have been using MPEG-4 720p for about a year now and like the results. Remember, if you are using YouTube, even if you upload in HD the user still has the option of a lower resolution. They can also let it download and then watch it, if they prefer.

For embedding in a web site they will be a little large. My 3 to 5 minute videos are usually over 300MB. __________________________________
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Thanks Brygard for your post. I too find PD's encoding lacking. To get the quality I need in my hanggliding videos I encode at 17MBps and usually end up with a 1 to 1.1gig video file for a 9 minute video. There is a lot of information in my videos with trees everywhere. As everyone knows the more detail the larger the photo. The quality is excellent but it takes me a full day to upload it to youtube.

I just put one of my 17MBps videos through VidCoder at 9MBps and ended up with a 600 meg video as against PD's 1.1gig. The quality is virtually indistinguishable.

I am in the process of encoding the same 17MBps video at 6MBps to see if the quality drops too much. This may add another step into my video encoding but if I can save soo much space and more importantly hours and hours of upload time it will be worth it.

What can I say I now have a 400 meg file as against a 1.1gig file and the quality is still holding up so well, this needs more testing. I really really like it.

I might try Brygards trick of encoding inside PD at 190MBps to see if I can get my youtube video to match the original out of the camera.


I have seen some 3 MBps professional videos of exceptional quality so it is possible with the right encoder. My youtube channel====> http://www.youtube.com/user/relate2?feature=mhsn

OK an update for anyone wishing to try and improve their PD videos.

1. I encoded my 9 minute test video in PD to 17MBps 1920X1080 .mt2s H.264. Very happy with the quality but at 1.1 gig it is just getting to large.

2. Dropped it into vidcoder and rendered it to mp4 at 9 & 6 MBps using Brygard's settings.

3. Result 9 MBps = 600MB.....6 MBps = 400 MB's quality of both virtually the same as the 1.1 gig PD render.

4. Bottom line for me I will be using vidcoder to re-render my PD videos at 6 MBps to save me more than half a day in uploading my videos to Youtube.

Would be nice if PD could buy out vidcoder to get the quality built into PD.

p.s. I did try one last test of producing my 9 minute video at 190MBps then running it through vidcoder and the end result the quality dropped just a touch. So not worth the extra time and effort of producing an 11 gig PD video. My youtube channel====> http://www.youtube.com/user/relate2?feature=mhsn

Nice feedback.

I meant to clarify about the 190mbps that I use.

Depend whats your raw videos Mbps use it near that same or lower abit,the only reason I use 190mbps cause the raw video has a 269Mbps.

So for example if your camera spits out raw videos say 50Mbps,make a custom profile around 40 or 30mbps to save space while still maintaining the quality of the raw video with out artifacts or blocky videos effects.

Then proceed with vidcoder to make the 6mbps.

My GoPro HD2 camera shoots at 15MBps so using PD at 17MBps lets me squeeze a little bit more out of it, especially when I am also stretching the video from 4:3 to 16:9.

I did just read though that a new firmware update is coming to bump the GoPro HD2 output up to 35MBps & 24fps. My youtube channel====> http://www.youtube.com/user/relate2?feature=mhsn

Quote: My GoPro HD2 camera shoots at 15MBps so using PD at 17MBps lets me squeeze a little bit more out of it, especially when I am also stretching the video from 4:3 to 16:9.

I did just read though that a new firmware update is coming to bump the GoPro HD2 output up to 35MBps & 24fps.

Hi Robert

Have you tried the Windows Media Video 9 FULL HD (1920x1080) profile?

This profile reduced my full HD AVCHD files from 3GB to under 600MB! With virtually no loss in quality. Onle downside is it takes longer to Produce but then again it uploads in a fraction of the time Happing editing

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Hi Neil,

I will give it a go. I just started rendering and it says it will end up 600meg, over half an hour to render 9 minutes though.

600 meg is equal to VidCoder at 9 MBps. Will see if the quality is equal or better than Vidcoder at 6MBps 400 meg. My youtube channel====> http://www.youtube.com/user/relate2?feature=mhsn

Well I tested the Windows Media Video 9 FULL HD (1920x1080) profile and it ended up 675 meg and less quality than the VidCoder 400 meg video. It is subtle but the .wmv video had pixelation on my blue harness, a section that really falls apart when dropping the quality. So with the extra rendering time and 275meg larger video file I will stick with VidCoder. My youtube channel====> http://www.youtube.com/user/relate2?feature=mhsn

Hi!

I also use WMV Full HD for my YouTube videos.

The other option is to go with MPEG4 and then use another program to make the files smaller. I use Handbrake for this and there you can do a two pass encode with whatever bitrate you want.

So the second option is very similar to what you are doing. So far I haven't run into quality issues with WMV. It's mostly FRAPS captures and retro games so the resolution / detail is quite low

A shame WMV doesn't work with QuickSync...

I make Aerospace instructional videos on high-tech industrial portable 3D metrology systems for shop floor operators. A mouth full I know. I am using PD 12 and regularly produce videos with the H.264 AVC codec, then change the suffix from wmv to m2ts so that I can embed the videos in a chm help file and have them play inside of Windows Media Center. The WMV Player can't really locate files easily inside of the chm so I changed the default player on my wmv's to WMV Center and they then play fine.. as long as users do the same on their computers. I change the suffix because the chm file doesn't support it, nothing more. I often have to change the chm file suffix inorder to transmit over Lync becuase it thinks it might contain a virus. I change it to txt and ask the recipient to change it back to chm.

I have a 8;53;15 video, at 1280x720, 2600kbps, 23fs & 48khz, 256kbps audio my file size is 1,762,370 KB. Too large for my chm to port out. VERY GOOD, but won't open in the wmv player called out in the chm file.

I changed settings from those above to a total bit rate of 3000kbps and the file size was reduced to 228,228 KB. VERY GOOD, and opens in wmv player.

I made one last file, everything the same again but at 1700kbps as one of the suggestions here. It made a file size of 77,511 KB. UNUSABLE. I also edited the Profile.ini to this. The editing didn't stay though. Reopening PD12 brings the defaults back into play.

I just went through the numbers I posted above on the bit rates to make sure I had them right becuase I am not using comas in them. It can get confusing and you can go cross-eyed looking at all the zeros.

I am including labeled screen grabs from the same location in the finished video. The 1700kbps bit rate file also had a time slip of about 5 sec from the other two so if I had included talking heads I would have to resync audio for them... but the video is so poor that I don't really think anyone would notice it.