3d project burning error while writing on blu ray!

Hi,

Thank you everyone again! Here's what i've tried so far: I tried taking totally different video clips of a separate event about 20 minutes long and tried to burn it 3D BD without any transitions, effects or menus. It worked! Then i took the project i've been struggling with and took all effects, transitions, etc off and tried to burn it, for some crazy reason, it failed again at 22%.
Now i see that Neil asked me a question if i had all my videos stored on my C drive..and the answer is no, because all my videos are stored in a separate additional 3 GB internal hard drive. And i know you would say that could be the problem, BUT why then other project that i created of a separate event worked fine, even tho no effects or transitions were included and those video clips were stored in my 3 gb additional hard drive????
Then i followed your advice and copied those video clips and stored them in my C drive, created a project about 30 minutes long without any effects again, just bare footage and it burned successfully!! So, now i'm totally confused, why all this is happening!
But my next question is since i transfered my video clips to drive C now and it seems that it worked, even tho i haven't tried it with effects and menus yet, but do i have to create a new project and start all over again, cut it, trim it, etc. or there's a way to open the project i already created again and somehow indicate a new path to my video clips that are stored in the drive C now????

Also, thank you, Jim, for a "graphics card driver update" advice, i did that too..that might have helped as well!

Hi,
glad you got it working (somewhat). If you load PD10 and select the project that is giving you trouble..it may just ask to browse to find the videos files you moved..so browse to where you moved them. I think that once PD finds the video footage all your additions should work...as pD stores that info in a XML file.
Jim

ELINA wrote:Hi,
Now i see that Neil asked me a question if i had all my videos stored on my C drive..and the answer is no, because all my videos are stored in a separate additional 3 GB internal hard drive. And i know you would say that could be the problem, BUT why then other project that i created of a separate event worked fine, even tho no effects or transitions were included and those video clips were stored in my 3 gb additional hard drive????
Then i followed your advice and copied those video clips and stored them in my C drive, created a project about 30 minutes long without any effects again, just bare footage and it burned successfully!! So, now i'm totally confused, why all this is happening!

Hi Elina

Hooray!

I've always found it is prudent to have your source video files on your C drive (usually the same place your video editing software is), especially when dealing with High Definition (HD) and now the new HD3D video files.

I use another couple of video editing software S*n* V*g*s Pro on my PC and FCP on my Mac and they work a lot better when the source files are located on C/primary drive.

After I have finished my project (Produced an AVCHD, BD1920x1080 and burnt to Blu Ray and DVD,) and I'm totally happy, that I move the Produced files to my 2TB external drive. This can free up about 40GB on my C Drive.

I am please things are starting to proceed for you.

All the best

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Hello!

My progress so far: I took my original project i've been trying to burn and it went thru successfully finally, even tho it took about 7-10 hours, i think, but it went all the way thru this time. So thank you everyone for helping me trying to figure out why i couldn't do that before.

The verdict is the original video clip has to be on the C drive at the time of working with it on PD.

But...another problem: when i went and checked it on my 3D TV, the movie wasn't 3D at all, except for the menu, that was awesome 3D!!! So, i'm confused why....It's like something always has to go wrong. I'm going to play with it a little more and recheck everything, if i'm doing it right. Maaaaan, this requires so much patience!!!!!!!

P.S. Neil. I also use S*n* V*g*s Pro every once in awhile, but was a little disappointed that you can make a 3D project, edit all you want, thousands of things you can do with it, but...can't burn a 3D BD. What is the whole point of editing if you cant burn it on BD??? so...major disadvantage.

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Hi Elina,
Well glad to hear you got things to work finally. But on your original project that was giving you problems, when you have edit on in the main timeline (the one with videos) select the track one videos select the video and then 'modify', then select the 'light bulb with arrow' and from within that select enable 3D and adjust (you will get a choice of what type of 3D anaglyph (red/cyan) or side by side) the side by side is (i believe) the new format which is a better quality than red/cyan, but the new format requires newer TV to support it.
Jim
p.s. This will increase the time for disc creation tho' unless you have a POWERFUL system.

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HI, everyone!

I wish i could finally say that i don't have any problems anymore and moved on to the next project already, but, unfortunately not! After i successfully burned my project and checked it on my 3D TV and it happen to be not really 3D, but just the menu was. I went back and made sure all my video clips were set up to 3D format, which normally the program detects it automatically, but i still did! And tried to burn it again, left overnight, came back in the morning and see it stuck at 22% again.....My frustration was limitless!!! i dont know what else to do!!!! HHHeeeeelllllpppppp!!!!!!!

P.S. Oh, and Jim, i tried to do what you told me: modify, 3d adjust, etc. but this is a little bit different thing, i think, i'm trying to make it a 3D BD format, which is better than red/cyan and side by side, this is full screen, full picture 3D movie. And when i went to modify, it didn't even give me that option to choose. I'm sorry, i might be wrong, but does that make any sense???? But thank you very much for trying to help me!!!! Like i said i would try anything anyone suggests to make it work, i'm determined!!!!

Hi Elina,
When you select your 'timeline' video files, then modify and from the 'LighbulbArrow' enable 3D you should have the choice as to what format to use sid/Side, or red cyan? choose side by side for best results. Now when you goto to Create Disc module you have to choose the ' 3D disc tab' then choose best quality, and on the format choice choose "again side by side' choice.
Jim
p.s. There is a lot of choices in 3D production and you can burn to folder or straight to disk, but the disk choice for 3D may have to be BD disks as if you choose regular DVD's I beleive only Cyan/red is used (i could be wrong)

HI!

Thank you, Jim! I tried to choose side by side right from the beginning and burned it on BD disk, but when i play it on TV its still side by side, the whole screen is divided in two, which is not what i want. So when i go to 3D tab, and choose the best quality, on the format choice it gives me side by side and 3D BD formats only(and the 3D BD format is what i want). And i do use BD disk for project tries, but it is RW, so i'm not wasting a BD disk every time i'm trying to burn a project! So, i'm still confused!

Hi Elina,
Well I have run out of suggestions, as I don't have a 3D TV or monitor. I have done some small experiments that is all, sorry.
I am not sure on this 3D concept yet using the 3D campatable TV's it seems there is no standardization..since you are using rW Blu ray disk keep experimenting till you find the right one...use smaller projects to keep production time dwon till you find the right one.
Jim

HI, Jim!

Thank you very much for trying to help me!! i really appreciate it!! And if i ever figure out what the problem was, i sure will post it and, hopefully, that will save other people time.

)))

ELINA wrote:HI!

Thank you, Jim! I tried to choose side by side right from the beginning and burned it on BD disk, but when i play it on TV its still side by side, the whole screen is divided in two, which is not what i want. So when i go to 3D tab, and choose the best quality, on the format choice it gives me side by side and 3D BD formats only(and the 3D BD format is what i want). And i do use BD disk for project tries, but it is RW, so i'm not wasting a BD disk every time i'm trying to burn a project! So, i'm still confused!

I downloaded your video clip, and inserted it in PD10. It was detected as a 3D video,( it also told me it was NTSC and my system is PAL) so no selection of the type of 3D was required. I then went straight to Create 3D disc and burned it to a BD-RE, as a 3D-BD. It burned perfectly and I then put it in my Sony 3DTV and it played..nearly perfectly and I suspect it was because it had been converted from NTSC to PAL, but it was in full screen 3D, not side by side.

So the question is,,,why do you need to select the 3D format when it should be automatically detected, and maybe this is upsetting it.

Hi!

@kingsmeadow. Have you tried to add a 3d menu from the template and then burning it??? Because I just edited a new 3d project about an hour long and chose a 3d menu from the templates that came with the program and it stopped at 22% again while authoring. Then I took the same project and selected No menu and it went thru successfully, played on my 3d tv, awesome quality!!! So, in really thinking my whole problem is all these menus!!! I could be wrong, but that what it seems like!!

It's been awhile since I ran a test, but I seem to recall having to "force" my TV into side-by-side mode. The manufacturer (Panasonic) had previously told me that a lot of 3D footage doesn't have the format information necessary for automatic detection. That's certainly true for everything I've gotten from my cable company.

It might be that PD10 doesn't put that information in burnt disks either, or only does so with certain formats.

Just a thought...

jerrys wrote:It's been awhile since I ran a test, but I seem to recall having to "force" my TV into side-by-side mode. The manufacturer (Panasonic) had previously told me that a lot of 3D footage doesn't have the format information necessary for automatic detection. That's certainly true for everything I've gotten from my cable company.

It might be that PD10 doesn't put that information in burnt disks either, or only does so with certain formats.

Just a thought...

You are correct in your thoughts. 3DTVs can only auto detect 3D if it's MVC encoded. If it's any other format, side by side or over and under, then the user needs to tell the TV what format and then the TV will fuse the two images together, otherwise the two images are displayed either side by side or over and under. PD10 produces MVC encoding when one selects 3D BluRay, 3D-BD. This is MVC encoded 3D and the TV will automatically detect and play.

ELINA wrote:Hi!

@kingsmeadow. Have you tried to add a 3d menu from the template and then burning it??? Because I just edited a new 3d project about an hour long and chose a 3d menu from the templates that came with the program and it stopped at 22% again while authoring. Then I took the same project and selected No menu and it went thru successfully, played on my 3d tv, awesome quality!!! So, in really thinking my whole problem is all these menus!!! I could be wrong, but that what it seems like!!

I just added a 3D menu which I downloaded from DZ, it was the first one on the 3D list. Inserted it in your 3D clip and it rendered and played perfectly ! Which 3D menu did you choose ? I will try the same one.

kingsmeadow wrote:

ELINA wrote:Hi!

@kingsmeadow. Have you tried to add a 3d menu from the template and then burning it??? Because I just edited a new 3d project about an hour long and chose a 3d menu from the templates that came with the program and it stopped at 22% again while authoring. Then I took the same project and selected No menu and it went thru successfully, played on my 3d tv, awesome quality!!! So, in really thinking my whole problem is all these menus!!! I could be wrong, but that what it seems like!!

I just added a 3D menu which I downloaded from DZ, it was the first one on the 3D list. Inserted it in your 3D clip and it rendered and played perfectly ! Which 3D menu did you choose ? I will try the same one.

Hi!

Well, the ones i tried were the Template 1(with like a monopoly game) and Template 3 (like a broadway sign).

Also, i just took my second project that i've been trying to make and put Template 7 (Children's theme) and it went thru perfectly, just checked it on my 3d tv and everything is perfect, the menu is full screen awesome 3d and the actual movie as well this time! So, now, i guess i just have to take my first project and keep trying menus and find the one that will work for it and wont stop at 22%.
I also thought may be my project is too long (about 73 min), but then when i look at the disk availability, which in my case is 25gb, its only half way full. And, there is an option of 50 gb disk in the drop down box, so, that means the movie could be 2 and 3 hours long, or even 2 or 3 projects in one disk under one menu. Thats why the thoguht that the problem is that the movie is too long is out of the question then. So, im really thinking its has something to do with the menus. I just don't know why!